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Old 10-03-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Babyboomers are so greedy, they had everything soooooo easy and now they don't want to move so the young ones can make a living... It is not about rejecting seniors. They can volunteer or start they own businesses.
I just cringe everytime I hear someone say the word "greedy" It seems that the only people that use the word are those that are themselves greedy.

Here are some observations:

Just because someone is holding on to a job does not mean that some one else will get that job. Duties could be assigned to other employees. Changes in the structure could happen. No guarentees are made in business that anything will happen.

Older workers provide experience to an organization that is not always prevalent in the younger generation. The fact is that it will more than likely cost an organization quite a bit to replace an older worker.

I find it interesting that you would think that babyboomers had it so easy. Could you please explain that to me so I can understand where you are coming from.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:25 PM
 
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Babyboomers are so greedy, they had everything soooooo easy and now they don't want to move so the young ones can make a living... It is not about rejecting seniors. They can volunteer or start they own businesses.
Young people can start their own business. I probably won't retire either as I think I'd get bored pretty fast.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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Home Depot hire retired electricians and plumbers and carpenters because they know what is needed for the project that the customer is doing. They do not hire some young person who has no idea about the trades. That's why you don't see a bunch of young people. If you do they are helpers and warehouse help. It's called experance good for Home Depot business.
Well....not really.

I worked for their primary competitor and frankly it isn't true. The thing is who specifically takes the liability for given advice? More importantly how much validity can one provide for providing free advice?

Back in the day when the threat of lawsuits was small this was not that big of a deal. Today it is pretty large.

These days it is not insulting to ask someone to use the internet. There are videos that pretty much wave liabilities to do any type of diy project. Either someone is a diy'er or they are contractor. There is no real middle. If someone actually does ask for advice simply ask for them to write it down as frankly verbal advice will not work that well. In some cases depending on state laws home owners might not actually be able to perform the work on their house that they think they can do. Lastly is that building codes vary per local government and receiving code on a secondhand basis is never a good idea. Check with the local government first.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I just cringe everytime I hear someone say the word "greedy" It seems that the only people that use the word are those that are themselves greedy.

Here are some observations:

Just because someone is holding on to a job does not mean that some one else will get that job. Duties could be assigned to other employees. Changes in the structure could happen. No guarentees are made in business that anything will happen.

Older workers provide experience to an organization that is not always prevalent in the younger generation. The fact is that it will more than likely cost an organization quite a bit to replace an older worker.

I find it interesting that you would think that babyboomers had it so easy. Could you please explain that to me so I can understand where you are coming from.
Funny that you can evidence a personality trait because I used the word greedy. So let's play the same game, I assume you are a baby-boomer?

I don't have to explain where I come from to reinforce my statement. Everything was easy because the competence was not that hard when they were young, the income level was higher compared to today's wages and the education requirements to secure a job didn't ask for a Master's for an entry level vacancy.

Companies are dynamic organisms that need to regenerate. No one is indispensable.
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Old 10-03-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Um, a person who won't retire from his job is not "greedy".

Greedy is wanting to have things that aren't rightfully yours.

If someone wants to do honest work for a living, this is NOT greedy.

Nobody has to move out and give their job to someone else.
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Old 10-03-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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Hmmm...

Are jobs plentiful where you all live? I thought that wasn't the case so much anymore.

Where I work, we changed the ordinance to stop retirees from holding part time positions. Why? Jobs were scarce enough....why would we pay someone a pension AND a part time paycheck? These part time positions could go to someone with no income coming in at all.

I could see if the retirees could barely support themselves. But if you can live comfortably on your retirement, why take away a paid position from someone else? How is that not greedy?

And doesn't volunteering prevent boredom as well as a paid position?

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Old 10-03-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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I hope to be one of those older people that never quits working. My goal is to put in at least another 40 years here. That will get me to 89 years of age. I love what I do and have no desire to leave. I could see me doing this when I am 105.
I love your enthusiasm, do you mind me asking what you do?
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Old 10-03-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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[quote=mochamajesty;36739276]Hmmm...


I could see if the retirees could barely support themselves.
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A lot of people who are retired, fall into that category. I think you'd find the amount of people working because they just want to keep active are not necessarily enough to warrant your statement.
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Old 10-03-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Work, don't work, but if you do work please be competent.
We have a couple of older workers who just can't keep up (well past retirement age) and they look to co-workers to help them out or cover for them. Top brass is aware but reluctant to do anything other than hope that these workers will eventually realize they just don't cut it anymore and leave on their own. In the meantime these once beloved employees are turning into a headache for the others who find themselves burdened with the extra work. All because those older folks want to feel like they still matter, or because they don't want to be bored and alone at home.

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Old 10-03-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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Hmmm...


I could see if the retirees could barely support themselves.
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A lot of people who are retired, fall into that category. I think you'd find the amount of people working because they just want to keep active are not necessarily enough to warrant your statement.
Well, obviously a lot of retirees fall into that category.

My comment was directed specifically to the people on this thread rather than retirees as a whole.

I don't remember too many people on this thread stating that they are destitute...they are working because they want to.

What is the exact number to warrant my statement?
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