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Old 10-17-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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Why the hell would I call anybody sir like they are a superior being to me? First name should be more than fine, we're all really equals.

So sorry to burst your little egalitarian bubble, but if I hire you and you work for me, we are clearly not equals in the workplace. I pay you, which means you do what I ask, not vice versa. Mind you, I don't insist on being addressed as Sir or the whatnot, but abandoning this notion that you're really the equal of the boss on the job is a pretty good way to lose your job.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:18 PM
 
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The stupid idea of paying the manager the same pay as those he/she supervises, is going to get the type of managers that cannot do the management job, and will put you out of business.

True Example. 1969, I worked as a furniture salesman in one of the top department stores in the country. I had a lot of management experience. I was earning between $125,000 and $150,000 per year in today's dollars. They started insisting I take the job of Division Manager over 5 departments. I told them no, I did not want to take the job. I was told I had to take the management job, or I would be terminated. Reason I did not want to take the job, was I would go on salary rather than commission, and my income would be cut by 2/3s.

I quit on the spot, and started at a Furniture Store 5 blocks away, for an additional $25,000 per year income. I was replacing someone that was retiring in 2 days. Less than 10 minute interview. First new furniture store hired in 12 years. Twice in 5 last 5 years, this store had been voted by the industry to be the best furniture store in the nation, so it was a high quality store.

The poster that wants to start a big company and pay the manager the same as he pays the workers, absolutely knows nothing about the business world, and does not realize that a good manager, only works for management wages, just as I was not going to take that management job, and earn less money by far than what I had been earning, no one qualified to be a manager is going to work under his plan.
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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Even if I was a corporate exec, I would prefer to be called by my first name or "['Mr.' followed by my last name]".
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Worcester MA
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I grew up in the Midwest and now live in the Northeast. Have never called anyone sir or ma'am in my life. No one's ever called me sir either, but occasionally clerks will call me ma'am or miss.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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"Sir" and"Ma'am" are gold.
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Old 10-24-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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One person in another department that I work with frequently on a couple of projects called me "sir" whenever I spoke to him. I thought maybe he just had forgotten my name, but it turns out that he came here right out of the military, and was just used to addressing superiors that way. As just a mid-level manager in a corporate I don't expect that, and eventually discussed it with him and asked him to call me by my first name. We normally address our top executives and even CEO by their first name. When a customer service person at a store or restaurant calls me "sir" it just makes me feel old.
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