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Old 11-11-2014, 01:35 PM
 
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Hey everyone,

I just wrapped up interviewing for a new job, and things went VERY well, so I'm confident that an offer will be coming shortly. That being said, in the beginning of the process, the recruiter gave a salary range and then asked if I was ok with it - which I said that I was, but would likely be near the top-end. Assuming that they offer the max of the aforementioned range, would you guys say that it's ok for me to ask a little bit above that (5% give or take)? The top-end of the range they provided would be about a 20% raise, which is nice (along with a shorter commute), but another 5% or so would make it a slam dunk.

I can tell that they were really impressed, so I'm thinking that I could squeeze a little more out of them, but I don't want to ruffle any feathers either. Also, I'm currently employed, so it's not a life or death situation in regards to taking the job.

Thanks in advance
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Are you afraid of coming off sounding greedy? I would ask for it but come up with a more compelling reason why you deserve that extra 5%.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Nope. You clearly knew the range before going into this. What I recommend is targeting the high in the range and negotiating for a review/adjustment in 6 months. Asking higher than what you apparently were willing to interview for would strike me as dishonestly participating in the process. As the manager, I would pass you by.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Nope. You clearly knew the range before going into this. What I recommend is targeting the high in the range and negotiating for a review/adjustment in 6 months. Asking higher than what you apparently were willing to interview for would strike me as dishonestly participating in the process. As the manager, I would pass you by.
I agree with this, but I don't think it will make you appear as dishonest, just not understanding how things work.

But if you don't ask for it coming in, they aren't going to offer it.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Rural Central Texas
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I agree with Squirl. You accepted the range at the beginning of the negotiation and I would take you as greedy or a fool if you tried to renegotiate it higher at this point.


I once interviewed for a position that posted a salary range. My minimum point was slightly over the midpoint of the range. The HR rep asked me if I would consider an offer below my stated minimum, and when I restated my minimum requirement she responded that it would take board approval.

Since the posted range had a top end 30% higher than my minimum, I took this as evidence of a dysfunctional and disorganized organization. The came back with an offer that met my minimum requirements and I learned my estimation of the company was quite accurate. My point is that the dithering over a pre-discussed salary range was the indicator of the company personality I developed. I would take your negotiation tactic in the same vein.

Good luck and do what you feel best.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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Personally, I think you can ask for whatever you want if you have an ok sounding reason - something like you became more aware of the responsibilities and that influenced what you need. Or something like that, but better. But it also depends on who you'll be negotiating with. SOmetimes it's only HR, sometimes it's the hiring mgr. It's easier and better to risk pi$$ing off HR than the HR.

Basically, you can ask. But the thing is, it's usually a negotiation and you hardly ever get what you ask. So you need to always start higher than what you really want.

You should have a minimum number in your own head that you'll accept for this particular position (depending on the total package - taking into account benefits, bonus, commute time, future growth, etc.) if you are able to negotiate above that, accept. If not, then you either say no or adjust your minimum.

Best of luck.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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I agree with Squirl. You accepted the range at the beginning of the negotiation and I would take you as greedy or a fool if you tried to renegotiate it higher at this point.
Agreed. Seems greedy.

Especially if it's a recruiters range, which is typically high. They get paid off of what you make.

So, keep in mind your new employer is paying at least a 50% markup on your salary.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Agreed. Seems greedy.

Especially if it's a recruiters range, which is typically high. They get paid off of what you make.

So, keep in mind your new employer is paying at least a 50% markup on your salary.
Sorry, I should have clarified, when I said "recruiter" I actually meant it as an internal HR person. Thank you for the insight thus far though.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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So you said you were okay with the range, and once they make you an offer you're going to say you aren't.

Not a great way to start your working relationship with them, in my opinion.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:12 PM
 
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So you said you were okay with the range, and once they make you an offer you're going to say you aren't.

Not a great way to start your working relationship with them, in my opinion.
Well, my plan would be to say something along the lines of "After reviewing the total compensation package (benefits, PTO, etc) I would need a little more in the way of salary to bridge the gap." I figure it gives me an out, since they haven't provided any of that info yet.
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