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Old 05-07-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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I didn't argue, I professionally replied her back, so she knows that aknowedge email. I got the email a week and 2 days later after I started

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Old 05-07-2015, 03:49 PM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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Not how I'd have handled it, either. I'd have taken it offline, a conversation vs. email with cc: to manager, even if yours was a response to the supervisor's. You'd sell it a lot better if you popped by the supervisor's station/location for a "quick alignment discussion", with smiles and in a non-threatening way, to make sure you understood the requirements, and when, and how that is being measured, and his/her thoughts on it vs. yours.

I'd play that "new guy (gal)" card best you can by acting innocent. "What, me worry?" Just get aligned with the supervisor by (politely) confronting/heading off any issues. Even better, staying ahead of them. I call these drive-by conversations. They can take less than five minutes and transfer a lot of information. Daily or minimum couple times/week.
From what the OP has written I doubt if she/he's going to be able to grasp any of this. This is a Millenial looking for the helicopter parent IMO.
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Old 05-09-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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Never throw your own manager under the bus by arguing with them via e-mail and copying his supervisor. Bad move for someone on probation.
I agree. I would never do this. I would walk into your managers office and talk to them personally about it and what you need. Your manager will usually decide your fate. You're not really supposed to be critical of your manager to the person they report to. It's just something you can't do. I would honestly appologize to your manager for doing this and it will go a long way. Otherwise you will never get promoted because your next manager will be afraid of you making them look bad.
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Old 05-09-2015, 05:00 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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OP I can relate when taking on a new role and just want to suggest on how to deal with learning a new type of position. Just make you get a huge notebook so you can write down as much as you can to avoid asking a lot of questions. Plus you will make a mistake because it's how you get better at the job as you continue to through the probation period. I had the same fear of wanting to avoid making too many mistakes but just had to accept that when you are on probation it's not a big deal. As long as you are not making the same mistake then you should pass probation with no problem.. Also don't get caught up in not receiving proper training and just accept it and learn the job the best way you can.
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Old 05-09-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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I would agree with others that your reply was not the best move.

What was the tone of her email regarding the expectations? Have you had issues with her before this?

For what it's worth, showing initiative and quickly grasping the material is pretty much what's expected of employees these days.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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1. Never CC your boss' boss. I would be extremely displeased if my direct reports emailed me back CCing my boss with nothing but excuses. It makes you look bad, it makes your boss look bad and it annoys the bigger boss because it's not their responsibility to deal with you.

2. It is your job to learn this stuff. Get the resources you need, don't wait for people to come to you. Ask for help/information/whatever. Ask for a meeting with your supervisor and let her know the areas you feel you need more training. Go to her with solutions not problems.

3. Learn how to manage up.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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From what the OP has written I doubt if she/he's going to be able to grasp any of this. This is a Millenial looking for the helicopter parent IMO.
This is BS. You have no idea how old the OP is, and yet you're making a generalization about his age based on who knows what. At best, what I can determine from OP's post is that English is probably his/her's second language. There is nothing that indicates OP's age. If anything, OP's user name suggests s/he was born in 1967.

This is why I tend to avoid this sub. It's overcrowded by the likes of biased people like you. This is a Gen-X/Boomer Sympathizer/Millenial Basher sub at best. If you're under 35, it's best to avoid this sub at all costs.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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I just started a new job on April 21st. It's a union job with 6 months probation. I have been attending classes for the most time and maybe shadowing twice. Supervisor is to pushy and just going through things with me in a rush. Few days ago she emailed me and cc manager about what her expectations are. I emailed back basically letting her know that I need proper training g and this job takes time to learn. I also cc manager, and said that I am capable of doing my job but I need a little more time and proper training will bring success. What do you suggest to do to stop supervisor doing this to me?
Probably not good to tell your boss's boss that you need proper training.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:25 PM
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Probably not good to tell your boss's boss that you need proper training.
Well it needs to be said to someone because without proper training it will lead to major mistakes in the future.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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This is BS. You have no idea how old the OP is, and yet you're making a generalization about his age based on who knows what. At best, what I can determine from OP's post is that English is probably his/her's second language. There is nothing that indicates OP's age. If anything, OP's user name suggests s/he was born in 1967.

This is why I tend to avoid this sub. It's overcrowded by the likes of biased people like you. This is a Gen-X/Boomer Sympathizer/Millenial Basher sub at best. If you're under 35, it's best to avoid this sub at all costs.
Yes, English is my second language, but I can write better. I was just in a hurry and did it through my phone. Just an update: My supervisor stopped after writing back to her about proper training. Everything is going well and she complimented on my work.
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