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This is the loophole that needs to be addressed. The H1B program is meant to bring the best and brightest here to contribute to the economy and to the continuing success of US firms. Instead, it's being used as a way to get cheap, indentured, labor to replace existing workers.
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Originally Posted by mrwibble
The point is that Disney are not securing top talent. Their bringing in cheap workers to replace those already working there.
Very well described!
The companies should be required to file an annual report to DOL stating the number of layoffs and the corresponding jobs outsourced/offshored which resulted in direct H1B employment or via a vendor. That would help gather statistics on the direct impact of H1B program on employment of US citizens.
I'm sorry, but I am friends with an Indian guy here on a visa and he specifically told me his "recruiting" firm fakes their resumes and skill sets to get them top jobs with major corporations. He also told me that his agency trains these employees on what to say during their interviews, and they even go on interviews for them sometime, AS WELL as feed them answers through an earpiece! It's all a farce!
These are people with no experience! My friend even told me once they secure a contract/project role they will do the work for them and train them during their employment.
Would you believe they celebrate each new hire with a cutting of a cake!? Way to go government!
Oh, one other thing, his agency only hires and places Indians.
Needless to say I was shocked. I had no idea this type of thing goes on. But if I could pull it off, I guess I would too.
Indian recruitment scammers are all the rage these days.
I've gotten no shortage of emails from these clowns, typically in broken English, spouting off about jobs that are so vague they clearly do not exist. Then, they want you to send them your resume in an editable format, such as Word.
What do they do next? They remove your name and contact information and slap the name of a visa worker on it, effectively stealing your experience so you can be replaced by a lying, semi-legal foreign worker.
It's a scam, but the visa workers are cheaper, so nothing will be done about it.
The companies should be required to file an annual report to DOL stating the number of layoffs and the corresponding jobs outsourced/offshored which resulted in direct H1B employment or via a vendor. That would help gather statistics on the direct impact of H1B program on employment of US citizens.
I also like the idea I heard somewhere of slapping these cheap companies with a fine equal to difference between the amount of payroll tax collected and the amount that would have been collected had the company hired Americans and paid them the prevailing industry wage.
No cheating the system: no illegals, no visa workers, no other nonsense: you hire Americans first, pay them properly, and only then start looking around. Anything else is simply corruption that is killing this nation and a form of tax-payer subsidized corporate welfare.
How about using drugs researched or manufactured by Merck, Abbott or BMS? Credit cards serviced by Visa, Amex, Masters or Discover? Beverages manufactured by CocaCola or PepsiCo? Using Microsoft or Apple products? Using Youtube or Facebook? Buy insurance from Aetna, BCBS or Cigna? Calling or texting on at&t, T-mobile or Verizon? Driving a Ford, GM, Volvo or Chrysler? Or buying gas from Exxon, BP, Cheveron or Shell?
Is this a thread about Disney's employment practices or is this a thread shilling for straight up socialism? Seems like the latter.
This is a thread that points out it doesn't matter how well-prepared Americans are for the job market, or how hard they are willing to work, if corporations have no intention of hiring them in the first place. It has nothing to do with socialism. It only has to do with the most insidious aspects of capitalism.
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD
This is the second time you did this. Sanders doesn't care about American workers.
You couldn't choose a less credible "news" source. Far worse than FOX.
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Originally Posted by Workaholic82
It will stop if there's proper legislation. Somethings needs to be done about this outsourcing ****. It's out of hand.
You're right about the legislation. Problem is, there are few issues Corporate America will lobby harder for and throw more money at than their "right" to run their businesses in a way that brings them maximum profits. They have NO patriotism whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by davenj08
... The companies should be required to file an annual report to DOL stating the number of layoffs and the corresponding jobs outsourced/offshored which resulted in direct H1B employment or via a vendor. That would help gather statistics on the direct impact of H1B program on employment of US citizens.
Yes, that's a great idea. But this is already the United Corporations of America and they would laugh at thos and even if you got the bill passed, they would lie in their reports.
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Originally Posted by greenmamba
Lol at the logic of "not being able to find qualified people" except, you know, the people already doing the job.
I also like the idea I heard somewhere of slapping these cheap companies with a fine equal to difference between the amount of payroll tax collected and the amount that would have been collected had the company hired Americans and paid them the prevailing industry wage.
No cheating the system: no illegals, no visa workers, no other nonsense: you hire Americans first, pay them properly, and only then start looking around. Anything else is simply corruption that is killing this nation and a form of tax-payer subsidized corporate welfare.
That is peanuts to the large corporation ... how about we just disband the H-1B program altogether ? Let the H-1Bs expire and not renew. And about 6 months before the H-1Bs expire, hire Americans and make the H-1Bs train the Americans right before they are sent packing.
... how about we just disband the H-1B program altogether ? ...
That would be a knee-jerk reaction. We need foreign workers and thier expertise in specialized fields. All that needs to happen is to tweak the H1B program so it is not misused for replacing existing employess with cheaper foreign workers.
Not sure if you know, but earlier this year DHS passed a rule to allow work permits to folks who are in US on H4 visa i.e. spouses of folks working on H1B visa. Effectively, this doubles the number of potential foreign workers who could take American jobs.
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