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Old 06-30-2015, 08:01 PM
 
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As in people who are average in their job?
Or does everyone nowadays have to go above and beyond just to keep their jobs?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Or does everyone nowadays have to go above and beyond just to keep their jobs?
It certainly seems that way to me

One sign of this is forcing employees to be available to work from home after hours. My view has always been that unless you work in certain fields (law enforcement, military, healthcare, fire/rescue, transportation authorities, etc) one should only be required to work their set, specified hours. No more, no less. Work stays at WORK. Overtime should be voluntary.

We have people on this forum who think that anyone that works less than 50 hours a week is a p---y. It's absurd. People have a right to a healthy work-life balance.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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'My view has always been that unless you work in certain fields (law enforcement, military, healthcare, fire/rescue, transportation authorities, etc) one should only be required to work their set, specified hours. No more, no less. Work stays at WORK. Overtime should be voluntary.'

Then perhaps all of these jobs you just mentioned particularly military should get a heck of a better paycheck than they do.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:24 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Likely not many of them. The need for labor seems to be winding down, and companies only want the best and brightest of the remaining labor.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:35 PM
 
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It depends on the job.

For example in retail the call out/walk off/turnover rate is so high that a guy who is an average to below average employee but who simply is dependable to show up when scheduled /called is very valuable.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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you seem to make threads against average people often these days >.>

what's wrong with getting an average car wash or average fast food? It isn't like I plan to pay a lot for them, just average is good, just want the instructions to be followed.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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Most employees are "average."
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Yup, lots of it.

Everyone likes to think they're a unique snowflake, but the truth is you're more like an easily replaced cog. My job's extremely specialized, but for probably 80-90% of the work out there any of us specialized cogs can do the job. It's the other 10% or so that requires more than the average cog. The completely green cogs are completely green, but we're talking about average not the worst of the bunch. Now if you tried to put random Joe off the street you'd have basically none chance they could do the job (only about 20,000 of us in the country). But among the 20,000 specialized cogs, average is fine.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:06 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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With our annual pay increases based strictly upon performance, most employees are average, and get a rating that gives them maybe 2%/year.
As average workers they seem happy with the average increase, because working harder to become outstanding only gets them 4%.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:14 PM
 
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Here in Minnesota everyone in my field (engineering-related) is average at best and nobody works long hours.
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