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Old 07-03-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: galaxy far far away
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Just read these two short articles with statistics on why some very qualified people don't get promoted. No, it isn't that old excuse of "favoritism." It's a whole lot easier to fix than that;

Beyond performance: Top stumbling blocks to earning that promotion

and

this little reminder that HR Knows a Lot More about you than You Think!
Here's a list along with a link to see the survey 13 times things got weird and unproductive at work
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:04 PM
 
Location: London
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Why is showing up late worse than leaving early?

Grr. Stupid early bird bias.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Why is showing up late worse than leaving early?

Grr. Stupid early bird bias.
It's really just easier to spot, because the supervisor probably leaves early and doesn't know when the others leave. In my experience, the physical appearance part is not applicable at all for places I work or have worked, we have directors wearing jeans some days, and with piercings and/or tattoos. It would be if the polls were done in a financial or legal workplace. As for the behavioral issues, yes, they are right on.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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Another fluff piece of little substance. And in my experience it does not matter what HR "knows" since they have nothing to do with promotions at any of the places I have worked for the last 32 years.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I regularly work 9 to 5:30 (as do a lot of my peers) but I still feel like managment likes the 8 to 4:30 people more.

I have a group of folks that I work out with in the early morning that I really enjoy (hence the 9 to 5:30 schedule) and I hate to give them up but may have to I guess if I want to get out of my current job.

Also - a LOT of the late arriving people do NOT stay late and I feel like this gives us all a bad name).

HR - yeah. They don't make too many hiring/promotion decisions.
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Old 07-04-2015, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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(Yawn) So what exactly Is the big suprise here?

Too many of us have finished our education with the mistaken belief that the credentials will lead to a job with variety, challenge, and most of all, the autonomy many of us cherished during our undergraduate years.

What we quickly learn is that whatever "talent" we uncovered, and hopefully developed, during those years isn't worth much. Entry level jobs, particularly if in the sanitized world of corporate culture, are about surrendering your time, intelligence, and will to somebody else's micromanagement -- and too often to the reselling of your subjugation to some demanding, irrational outsider who has little gasp of the realities you, the salaried slave, must deal with.

likely due to previous bias, women seem quicker to grasp this; and to the few among them who found a way to better utilize their skills in a gender-neutral workplace, my sincere congratulations. But for the rest of us, the transformation has merely served to disempower male and female alike, and move us all further down in the pecking order.

Obvious disregard for the basic disciplines of the workplace is one thing, but the vast majority of the "unwritten" rules are designed to aid in the identification of submissiveness and vulnerability; to reduce everyone to a level of autonomy not much different from that in a middle-school classroom.

The so-called "race to the bottom" should be perceived as every bit as much a trend in the theater of employee rights as it is in compensation; that is, as I've pointed out before, an effect of the leveling of the playing field, and can't be helped much. But the sharks are out there, always nibbling away at any vestige of individuality. And the wants and goals of individual participants are increasingly different within a diverse workplace.

If you can't stomach this, you had better consider self-employment options very carefully.

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