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Old 07-04-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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Do you think bosses generally tend to prefer early birds, even if the owls are willing to stay as late as they arrived? What about yours?

I don't get it. Most people I know on a peer level are NOT morning people, but all my bosses have always been early bird types.

Will this bias ever go away? I personally do much better on a later schedule. I have to be at work by 8am, but I'm mentally useless until after lunch. I'm present, but every night I drink booze to pass out early enough, and every morning I pound stimulants to wake up early enough.

When I was working for myself, I typically worked from 6pm-4am, going to bed by sunrise. No substances needed. I loved it. I'm an extreme case, but I suspect most people are NOT at their most productive so early in the morning. .
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I'm present, but every night I drink booze to pass out early enough, and every morning I pound stimulants to wake up early enough.


I have employees on the floor who arrive at 6 am so they can be out by 2 or 3. I prefer that to their staying late at night.

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Old 07-04-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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it depends. my boss gives me a perfect score on eval's for promptness. i come in very early so i can leave earlier than the others. often ive been late for cancer treatments, but early or not my boss only cares that the work gets completed. if coming in early helps me do a better job, hes fine with that
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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I have employees on the floor who arrive at 6 am so they can be out by 2 or 3. I prefer that to their staying late at night.
Just curious why you prefer the earlier shift?

That is what befuddles me.
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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https://hbr.org/2014/05/with-flextim...-to-night-owls

Do you think bosses generally tend to prefer early birds, even if the owls are willing to stay as late as they arrived? What about yours?

I don't get it. Most people I know on a peer level are NOT morning people, but all my bosses have always been early bird types.

Will this bias ever go away? I personally do much better on a later schedule. I have to be at work by 8am, but I'm mentally useless until after lunch. I'm present, but every night I drink booze to pass out early enough, and every morning I pound stimulants to wake up early enough.

When I was working for myself, I typically worked from 6pm-4am, going to bed by sunrise. No substances needed. I loved it. I'm an extreme case, but I suspect most people are NOT at their most productive so early in the morning. .
I'm not exactly an early person. But I do get in early and try to leave early. Mainly to miss traffic as I hate wasting time. That said, I could care less what hours my staff works (within reason of course, you still need to interact with the rest of the company). I have some that come in late, and some that come in early. They have a role/responsibility that they are accountable for. As long as they're doing their job, I don't really care how little or how many hours they are putting in.

I do think it's a culture thing too though. My perspective is shared by my former peers that worked more in IT and Consulting. But my peers in finance tend to "watch the clock" a bit more.
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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i am most productive between 6AM and lunchtime esp with a good cup of coffee. . doing anything post lunchtime i will be proportionally less productive than before lunchtime. so if i have a task that is monumental i always do it between 6AM and lunchtime, anything less monumental can go after lunch
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:07 PM
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I don't see why the boss would care as long as you got good results. That's all that matters.

I'm an extreme lark. I wake up by 2:30 AM and I'm at work by 6:00. I leave about 3:30 and nobody cares. I get a lot done in the early hours because there are fewer distractions.
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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https://hbr.org/2014/05/with-flextim...-to-night-owls

Do you think bosses generally tend to prefer early birds, even if the owls are willing to stay as late as they arrived? What about yours?

I don't get it. Most people I know on a peer level are NOT morning people, but all my bosses have always been early bird types.

Will this bias ever go away? I personally do much better on a later schedule. I have to be at work by 8am, but I'm mentally useless until after lunch. I'm present, but every night I drink booze to pass out early enough, and every morning I pound stimulants to wake up early enough.

When I was working for myself, I typically worked from 6pm-4am, going to bed by sunrise. No substances needed. I loved it. I'm an extreme case, but I suspect most people are NOT at their most productive so early in the morning. .
I can relate, since I am very much a night owl, and I honestly feel that I have a sleep disorder. Unfortunately, my bosses are all morning people who can't even stay awake until 9 PM. I'm sometimes in the office until 1 AM, and I get in trouble for "not working enough overtime", while the morning people who arrive at 6 AM, 7 days a week, are the ones who are praised. If I was to arrive at 6 AM, I would be completely useless for most of the day, but I am most productive in the late afternoon and evening. Shouldn't I be rewarded for wanting to work during my most productive hours, rather than being punished for it?
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Just curious why you prefer the earlier shift?

That is what befuddles me.
Because I like to get up and get work out of the way. I don't want things hanging over me to do late in the day.

So sounds like you need to find a night-owl boss or else become a boss yourself.
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Old 07-04-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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I can relate, since I am very much a night owl, and I honestly feel that I have a sleep disorder. Unfortunately, my bosses are all morning people who can't even stay awake until 9 PM. I'm sometimes in the office until 1 AM, and I get in trouble for "not working enough overtime", while the morning people who arrive at 6 AM, 7 days a week, are the ones who are praised. If I was to arrive at 6 AM, I would be completely useless for most of the day, but I am most productive in the late afternoon and evening. Shouldn't I be rewarded for wanting to work during my most productive hours, rather than being punished for it?
Agreed!

I think there would be societal benefits as well. When people aren't mostly all crammed into 9-5, there will be much less crowds, more business for public facing businesses, and less congested commutes. And probably less crime, since there would always be people around.
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