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Old 09-29-2015, 08:21 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Americans shift away from traditional jobs: study

This is really illuminating, and I don't think the shift is largely voluntary.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:17 AM
 
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good for them? If they choose it, then why is it a problem?

I know you said it isn't voluntary... but looking at the attitudes floating around even on CD, I can't see them "wanting" to work in an office for 30 years... at least they have a choice to do on demand type jobs like uber
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:17 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Some people are just intrigued by working as much as little as they want, and being on the internet and/or social media all day. That is evidenced by the success of Uber & Lyft, TaskRabbit and others and the Ebay Stores. Many more are likely to be started in the future.
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: midtown mile area, Atlanta GA
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Traditional jobs are harder to get. I have been picking up dog sitting and errand running type jobs. It's not want I want and i am miserable; but I am still trying to get a decent job. Even with education and experience the interviews are hard to get when you are over 40.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Americans shift away from traditional jobs: study

This is really illuminating, and I don't think the shift is largely voluntary.
I feel like this is the direction we're headed in the new technology/millennial economy. It's better to get a seat on the bus rather than stop it.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: USA
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It's not surprising, companies don't want the cost and liability of having a traditional full time worker anymore. As for gigs like uber, Once you factor in gas, wear and tear, depreciation, and the amount of hours it takes to do car rides and deliveries, the pay isn't that great. You will probably need to rely on government programs like obamacare instead of paid benefits. With no pension or matching 401k you will end up relying on social security a lot more when retirement comes along.
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Traditional jobs are harder to get. I have been picking up dog sitting and errand running type jobs. It's not want I want and i am miserable; but I am still trying to get a decent job. Even with education and experience the interviews are hard to get when you are over 40.
That is exactly right. And anyone who accuses those of us who try to start up a home-based business or take contract work because that is all we can do is very, very naive or just plain lucky to have never been laid off, outsourced, turned down over and over because of age or experience, or gone through the endless process of sending out resumes to the void, interviewing, and never hearing back from anyone.

Our country started up on small business owners. Over a hundred years ago these people were the majority.

Don't knock anyone who is trying to do better for themselves, whatever it takes.

And BTW, anyone who has ever tried to start up a small business of their own knows that you work a whole lot harder than someone who just goes to a job every day.

I have nothing but respect for entrepreneurs and small business owners.

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Old 09-30-2015, 11:14 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I feel like this is the direction we're headed in the new technology/millennial economy. It's better to get a seat on the bus rather than stop it.
This isn't a good bus to be on, nor is it preferable to traditional employment for most folks involved.
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Old 09-30-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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This isn't a good bus to be on, nor is it preferable to traditional employment for most folks involved.
It's just the way it is. Traditional employment is a thing of the past. Also, let's be honest, "traditional employment" isn't really traditional, it's only been around since the mid-20th century.
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Old 10-01-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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That is exactly right. And anyone who accuses those of us who try to start up a home-based business or take contract work because that is all we can do is very, very naive or just plain lucky to have never been laid off, outsourced, turned down over and over because of age or experience, or gone through the endless process of sending out resumes to the void, interviewing, and never hearing back from anyone.

Our country started up on small business owners. Over a hundred years ago these people were the majority.

Don't knock anyone who is trying to do better for themselves, whatever it takes.

And BTW, anyone who has ever tried to start up a small business of their own knows that you work a whole lot harder than someone who just goes to a job every day.

I have nothing but respect for entrepreneurs and small business owners.

This is an excellent post Especially what I bolded. Been there, done that and its frustrating.
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