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Old 11-13-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Tx
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Smolers ruin it for all of us. I don't like them.
Actually, smokers pay for it for all of you. Any time your government needs more money they add more tax to cigarettes. This is why you will never see big tobacco go away. They know they have people hooked and the gov't can use them as their personal piggy bank.

Before anyone thinks I am defending smokers, I am not. I smoked for 21 years and the 4 years since I have quit have been the best years ever.
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Lol. I used to smoke. I quit a long time ago. When I work with smokers I see when they start jonesing for a smoke. Its like watching a crack addict come off his high and needn't a hit.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:34 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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We are surrounded by carcinogens. It's a cumulative effect. Radiation, chemicals in the food, stuff in the water, bad air (that causes lung cancer, too) in cities, mercury in fish. To zero in on one thing is pretty hypocritical, since there is none among us without a vice or unhealthy lifestyle choice.
I zero in on smoking because it is one vice that directly affects others. If someone eats and gains weight and has a heart attack that requires surgeries and hospitalization, that might have an indirect effect on someone (via insurance premiums) but it does not affect them otherwise. Someone smoking around others DOES affect them directly because they have to breathe that stink. So THERE is my problem with smokers.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Our health insurance company charges a higher premium for smokers. This is becoming common, and many employers are requiring smokers to pay the difference in premium.
Your employer needs to switch to a group insurance policy. Sadly, many small companies don't have enough employees to warrant group insurance, but unions and professional associations often have group policies available for employees. Individual insurance plans usually cost much more for comparable coverage.
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Garbage, NC
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That's one thing I also wish to point out. Some smokers WILL abuse the sick system.

This is interesting. Do you think it's only smokers who "call in sick?"

In my experience, it's usually parents who do that.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:36 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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I miss the old days when we could smoke at our desks and staff meetings were smoke filled rooms with a big pot of coffee and a box of donuts. Before the clean air fad got started, a bank did a study to find out how much smokers cost the company. They found out that smokers were more productive than non-smokers.

Nicotine is a wonderful drug. It calms you down while boosting mental focus.
The clean air fad?

I'm not sure whether you are joking or not? Enlighten us.
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:57 AM
 
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I all just money , then instead of rejecting qualified workers then why can`t you buy them a patch to quit , take care of your workers and they will be a bonus to you instead of devaluing people by your poor hiring techniques.... Get them nurses to test their blood for sugar and cholesterol and blood pressure so you can live right for the best health care and the best insight investors for their pension
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:01 AM
 
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Not to mention, me wasting time having to run to the restroom to puke every now and then when I get whiff of someone who put down a pack of cigarettes while on a break.
That can obviously be very traumatic! I can feel for you, it's employees in my air space wearing nauseating cologne/perfume that makes me feel ill.
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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That can obviously be very traumatic! I can feel for you, it's employees in my air space wearing nauseating cologne/perfume that makes me feel ill.

And I've stood behind my share of farting geezers, too.

Kwitcherbeefin.
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: NY
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OMG, I found a thread where I can tell you just how much I hate smokers! I'd rather skip the details about why. If you've experienced being around smokers, you understand. Its absolutely vile. Its worse when they cough all the time. Disgusting! Trust me, where you find smokers you also find cigarette butts on the ground. You have to unfortunately smell that ashy pollution stink. Grrr!
They pollute the air, force their choice to poison themselves on every innocent person around them, make people sick, and close the whole thing out by throwing their litter on the ground as a final ****-you to everyone who isn't them.

Then they wonder why people dislike them.
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