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Minimum wage was never supposed to be a "living wage". If minimum wage was tied to inflation since inception it would be right around $4.50 an hour.
People who say it was never supposed to be a living wage are obvious to lazy to look up the history of the min wage and see it was made to be a living wage. Prices are way past 4.50 so how could min wage adjusted to inflation be that? It makes no sense?
People who say it was never supposed to be a living wage are obvious to lazy to look up the history of the min wage and see it was made to be a living wage. Prices are way past 4.50 so how could min wage adjusted to inflation be that? It makes no sense?
The history of the minimum wage is that it wasn't supposed to be a living wage, it never was.
People are trying to chnage that now because instead of working harder and developing skill they would rather the government force their employers to pay them more than they are worth.
The end result, the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938, banned most child labor, established a maximum workweek of 44 hours (rolled back to 40 hours in 1940), and set a minimum hourly wage of 25 cents (about $3.60/hour in inflation-adjusted, 2012 dollars). This was a modest starting point, an unhappy compromise between labor and New Deal interests looking to raise the floor and business and southern interests looking to keep it low (and full of holes). In the decades that followed, the scope and level of the minimum wage remained a political struggle. The federal minimum has been raised twenty-three times since 1938. Most of these amounted to a bump of a dime or a quarter—and never more than 70 cents in one shot. https://www.dissentmagazine.org/onli...e-minimum-wage
The history of the minimum wage is that it wasn't supposed to be a living wage, it never was.
People are trying to chnage that now because instead of working harder and developing skill they would rather the government force their employers to pay them more than they are worth.
The end result, the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938, banned most child labor, established a maximum workweek of 44 hours (rolled back to 40 hours in 1940), and set a minimum hourly wage of 25 cents (about $3.60/hour in inflation-adjusted, 2012 dollars). This was a modest starting point, an unhappy compromise between labor and New Deal interests looking to raise the floor and business and southern interests looking to keep it low (and full of holes). In the decades that followed, the scope and level of the minimum wage remained a political struggle. The federal minimum has been raised twenty-three times since 1938. Most of these amounted to a bump of a dime or a quarter—and never more than 70 cents in one shot. https://www.dissentmagazine.org/onli...e-minimum-wage
Following that Act passed President Franklin D. Roosevelt noted that “no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.”No where in the Fair Standard Labor Standard Act does it say it is only for teenagers are not meant to not be a living wage but Right Wingers sprout out those lies all the time with no facts.
I am not complaining. I am happy that low wage service workers will be earning enough money to support their families and will not have to rely upon government assistance.
Right now, Walmart and fast food stores suggest that their grossly underpaid employees apply for SNAP (food stamps)
I think that is outrageous!
I think this is one of the best arguments one could make for raising minimum wage right now. There is no reason for the government to be spending a dime supporting the worker's basic necessities. Even 100 years ago, the sweat shops would offer housing for their workers.
Minimum wage was never supposed to be a "living wage". If minimum wage was tied to inflation since inception it would be right around $4.50 an hour.
Wealth redistribution if you mean the shifting wealth/responsibility from govt to corp. It doesn't matter the intent of min wage. Reality is, more and more people have no choice but live on a minimum wage job and having the shortfall supplemented by the taxpayers.
As far as the $4.50 an hour figure, I would love to see the data to support it.
Your article does not support your argument. Working harder and developing a skill has nothing to do with this argument. What would happen if everyone followed that advice?
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Didn't realize being unemployed is better than a crappy job.
Financially, unemployment can be better than a crappy job, or even a moderate job. Unemployment of $370 a week, over $1,000 monthly in food benefits, and free insurance for our large family. I calculated the cost of benefits and the approximate tax rates and figured it at ~$20 / hour equivalent.
I have to just LOL at the one key word in this post title that just jumps out. "Demanding". Any clown with that attitude is more than likely going to be out on the street "Begging" for another job.
"Demanding" lol
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Financially, unemployment can be better than a crappy job, or even a moderate job. Unemployment of $370 a week, over $1,000 monthly in food benefits, and free insurance for our large family. I calculated the cost of benefits and the approximate tax rates and figured it at ~$20 / hour equivalent.
Except unemployment doesn't last forever and it would be unlikely that your whole family would qualify for Medicaid. The kids are easy, it's the adults that make it harder. Of course I live in a state that decided not to increase Medicaid with federal subsidies,so it is possible your state is more lax. I'd also wager your food benefits would be closer to $600 monthly. I get what your saying. I've been in the situation where it was financially better to receive assistance than work at the wage offered. This is dramatically effected should you throw child care in the mix. One of my biggest complaints about our welfare system is; the more you do for yourself the less help you receive. There isn't much incentive to work if you don't earn at least $15hr. Anything less for at least a 2 member family will cause you to lose your personal Medicaid and probably about half or more of your food stamps. That's not even counting subsidized housing and other programs for low income earners that are effected. Simply saying, that in some situations a parent going to work might only come out $100 ahead. There are many people who decide that less then a 3 figure net paycheck just isn't worth it.
I am not complaining. I am happy that low wage service workers will be earning enough money to support their families and will not have to rely upon government assistance.
Right now, Walmart and fast food stores suggest that their grossly underpaid employees apply for SNAP (food stamps)
I think that is outrageous!
In the not so distant past, people relied on a second job to support their family, not government assistance.
In the not so distant past, people relied on a second job to support their family, not government assistance.
It's tough to work a second job today. Especially with the kind of "staggered" and "on demand" scheduling such low wage jobs usually have. The managers don't want to be bothered, as they can easily find someone in the mile high stack of applicants who can work the required hours.
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