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You only need a few IT people to get the computers running, you don't need 50 when 5 will do.
You don't need 10 CEO's when 1 does the job.
That's why we have a dearth of plumbers, machinists and other trades. No one wants to get their hands dirty anymore.
You don't need an army of machinists to build something anymore either. Even still, the United States is just not churning out enough new machinists to replace the retiring ones. This nation is being set up for disaster. All those wanna be CEOs that possess 0 marketable skills, and cannot remember how to turn a wrench in the right direction, would have been of no use during WW2. Anybody remember how we won that one?
The U.S. got hooked on cheap labor, and doesn't know how to function without it. Gee, I seem to recall an empire that collapsed as a result of this very thing... They were called Rome, and they were pretty significant once upon a time...
I actually see this coming too. I blame both parties and have even gone to the point of trying to expose the various companies responsible (there are ways of finding who backs Common Core, Amnesty, outsourcing, etc. and I post it to expose them).
I plan to go into book writing (which cannot be outsourced, and, as is self-employed, cannot be downsized either nor can it be replaced by robots.) and maybe a part time job or so.
My CS degree is useless here in the sticks. I know this will mean a lower wage than that of my parents generation, but it cannot be helped.
At least I get to do what I like and I see that we are heading back toward the crap we had to put up with in the factory days of the Industrial Revolution and know enough, at 26, to try and plan to get out of that downward slope that I see coming (even if things recover, it's still gonna take a long while to come back up again).
The economy seems to be filled with a constant supply of low-wage, low-skill, temp, part-time employment. Even jobs that require some education and skill set are throwing out pay in the 9-12 dollar range. This has obviously been going on for years now but in the meantime living expenses have marched up.
With all the global recessions taking root, many economists are saying 2016 might begin another recession here in the US.
I know there are many "exceptions" to this but this is what I have been noticing FOR YEARS. Most people seem to advocate chasing the good paying jobs or moving to a really expensive metro area in the hopes of making enough. But what about the opposite?
Why not move to a really cheap city? If all that seems to be available is low pay jobs, why not move to a city with extremely cheap housing? Like Rust Belt/Deep South? I'm not talking about for the rest of your life (unless that is what you want) but why not accept another economic recession and plan accordingly?
I know this can sound rather pessimistic, but seriously, why base your whole life around the economy getting better and "finally" getting a nice job? It's disheartening to think of how much time I've WASTED looking for better jobs, hoping for a recovery, learning new skills, re-writting my resume 1000 times, and following the news everyday. I could have invested all that time and energy into fixing up my modest house in a cheap city.
Well, I finally sat down and decided on some things:
1. Never having kids, wife or basically life (Dogs/Cats/Pets)
2. No house (Taxes for schools and other stuff...)
3. Low wage (Heck, guess I'm lucky to have a job atm...55+)
4. Rent at $500+? (Screw that, live out of vehicle That's why no dogs/cats I consider a dog a dog at 50 lbs or bigger...)
5. Due to NAFTA we were sold a bill a goods which destroyed the good jobs, the "nice" jobs that would have paid $12-$25 an hour with a GED?HS diploma....
I simply lowered my expectations....Yes, much of what has happened to me is my fault. I cheer those who seek to better their lives, but don't worry about them if they crash and burn....
Well, I finally sat down and decided on some things:
1. Never having kids, wife or basically life (Dogs/Cats/Pets)
2. No house (Taxes for schools and other stuff...)
3. Low wage (Heck, guess I'm lucky to have a job atm...55+)
4. Rent at $500+? (Screw that, live out of vehicle That's why no dogs/cats I consider a dog a dog at 50 lbs or bigger...)
5. Due to NAFTA we were sold a bill a goods which destroyed the good jobs, the "nice" jobs that would have paid $12-$25 an hour with a GED?HS diploma....
I simply lowered my expectations....Yes, much of what has happened to me is my fault. I cheer those who seek to better their lives, but don't worry about them if they crash and burn....
There is nothing wrong with that. A lot of times people have financial issues because they are unable to separate the needs from the wants.
And keep poping out more kids to be low wage slaves. As a guy in the dating world try finding a woman who does not have kids and does not want them.
It is a self fulfilling prophesy.
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Originally Posted by DorianRo
Essentially yes you do. The problem is you have more candidates than jobs today and as a result you many of people underemployed because companies know they can stick it to the workers since they have 100 out back standing in line for someone to leave.
The wages won't rise because employers have figured out they can get the most out of the least. Five jobs placed on one person. Its an employer's market and when its an employer's they call ALL the shots.
Employees are just going to continue to find themselves doing more and more work for little money.
Wait around for the economy to get better ? You may as well wait around for a one eyed unicorn to fly you in breakfast. The employers will keep it an employers market as long as they can. Just so long as they find some poor suckers to do the jobs of 50 people. This will keep new positions from being created
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That's a rough life to live. I disagree with your 5th point. Have you ever heard of exportation? About 10% of jobs in America relate to exporting. Whether it's the dock worker, the farmer, the truck driver or the business owner, exporting goods provides a lot of money to the worker. While, of course, there will be losers, overall the consumer and exporter make out big. So keep the trade open and the everyday worker in the United States can afford goods.......................
Only 10% relate to exporting...How about the jobs that were exported and now reside elsewhere? That was a one and done deal.
Job I had before the one I have now, the boss had to go to China for a custom tube. USA made? $15 each...China? $4 each shipping included min order 1,000 pieces....Had he bought from the USA, he'd never done the contract, no profit in it.
The economy seems to be filled with a constant supply of low-wage, low-skill, temp, part-time employment. Even jobs that require some education and skill set are throwing out pay in the 9-12 dollar range. This has obviously been going on for years now but in the meantime living expenses have marched up.
With all the global recessions taking root, many economists are saying 2016 might begin another recession here in the US.
I know there are many "exceptions" to this but this is what I have been noticing FOR YEARS. Most people seem to advocate chasing the good paying jobs or moving to a really expensive metro area in the hopes of making enough. But what about the opposite?
Why not move to a really cheap city? If all that seems to be available is low pay jobs, why not move to a city with extremely cheap housing? Like Rust Belt/Deep South? I'm not talking about for the rest of your life (unless that is what you want) but why not accept another economic recession and plan accordingly?
I know this can sound rather pessimistic, but seriously, why base your whole life around the economy getting better and "finally" getting a nice job? It's disheartening to think of how much time I've WASTED looking for better jobs, hoping for a recovery, learning new skills, re-writting my resume 1000 times, and following the news everyday. I could have invested all that time and energy into fixing up my modest house in a cheap city.
Well living in a cheap city earning low wages still keeps you poor. You will most likely be working all the time without sick days, vacations, etc. Forget about health care because you won't be able to afford it.
I have to keep trying no matter what to pursue better. I know the consequences if I don't.
Sometimes the part does not even exist in the USA. I ordered some radially magnetized ring magnets and they are not even made in the USA other than for large commercial orders. The quality is improving in china as well.
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Originally Posted by Disgustedman
Random (Won't let me quote directly)
That's a rough life to live. I disagree with your 5th point. Have you ever heard of exportation? About 10% of jobs in America relate to exporting. Whether it's the dock worker, the farmer, the truck driver or the business owner, exporting goods provides a lot of money to the worker. While, of course, there will be losers, overall the consumer and exporter make out big. So keep the trade open and the everyday worker in the United States can afford goods.......................
Only 10% relate to exporting...How about the jobs that were exported and now reside elsewhere? That was a one and done deal.
Job I had before the one I have now, the boss had to go to China for a custom tube. USA made? $15 each...China? $4 each shipping included min order 1,000 pieces....Had he bought from the USA, he'd never done the contract, no profit in it.
Where I live in ohio the cost of living is quite low. I have decent work history with no degree and have gone to 3 interviews in 2 weeks. First I declined. 2nd was great, loved the people and pay was decent plus commission/bonus. 3rd was even better, $14 an hour and fairly easy work. All were office related. To me, $10 an hour is good. We have a nice home almost paid off plus 5 rental properties. (Rentals are very cheap here) even before that, my husband and I worked what is considered low wage jobs and did very well, debt free and saving money. We are not living paycheck to paycheck or struggling to get by. We go out to eat, theater, vacations ect.
I guess it depends where you live and how you live as what is a survivable wage. Since I started my job search (have been self employed 3 years but wanting to get back in) I have come across a lot of jobs, some higher pay and some lower. There seems to be a good mixture from what I have seen.
Well living in a cheap city earning low wages still keeps you poor. You will most likely be working all the time without sick days, vacations, etc. Forget about health care because you won't be able to afford it.
I have to keep trying no matter what to pursue better. I know the consequences if I don't.
But if you're poor, how are you supposed to move to an expensive city with the same skillset you have now that isn't getting you a job? Won't you just end up worse off?
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