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Old 01-20-2016, 08:48 PM
 
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I'm guessing you dropped out of an Engineering or science program because it was too hard for you and now you're bitter or feeling inadequate?
Not at all. I majored in a non-E STEM major and now I work as a software developer and make good money and love it. But I could've done this without any degree at all, or with an Arts History degree if I wanted to.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I feel sorry for people who believed a science degree would be there salvation in the job world. I see many unemployed or marginally employed people in these fields. People who studied their asses off in these competitive majors and then end up working $15/hr contract grunt work in labs before getting laid off. I think you're better off majoring in liberal arts. A Philsophy degree is just as employable as a Biology degree and with the former you at least can party for your 4 years in college.
Much more are better off in STEM than liberal arts. $15 is better than being a barista.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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And for people who want careers that require college degrees? They are just supposed to NOT go to college?
Maybe. If no one went to college, then degrees wouldn't be required for jobs. The only reason they require degrees is because there is a surplus of degree holders.
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Old 01-20-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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You are being facetious correct?
Nope
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Old 01-20-2016, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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...with the former you at least can party for your 4 years in college.
What makes you think you can't party AND get a STEM degree? Maybe you were better off without a STEM degree if you think those two are mutually exclusive.
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Old 01-20-2016, 10:25 PM
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Just drop the 'S' and make it TEM.
To face reality, you have to add a P.
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Old 01-21-2016, 02:03 AM
 
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It's almost like a lottery these days whether one succeeds or not.
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Old 01-21-2016, 04:03 AM
 
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Nonetheless a high school near me is building a STEM lab. Building Addition
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Old 01-21-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Much more are better off in STEM than liberal arts. $15 is better than being a barista.
Barista's don't expose themselves to carcinogenic solvents for a company that won't give them health insurance.
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Old 01-21-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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I don't know what you mean by "Philosopher", but people with Philosophy degrees do very, very well if you're among the higher end of their ranks.

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I can't say I'm a big advocate of 'trades,' as the people I know personally have complained to me that it wears out your body fairly quickly, isn't a good lifestyle, and doesn't have the sort of social cachet they want. But I reckon it depends on the details.

Details matter. I was graduated from high school and went to college. My best friend went to welding school. He took the extra step of learning how to weld exotic metals, and during the 80s he was one of a handful of welders in Texas who could repair oil drill bits in the field.


A broken drill bit costs oil companies thousands of dollars a minute. Companies called him without even asking his fee--only whether he was immediately available: "Can we send a helicopter for you now?"


He retired back in the 90s. I'm still working.
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