Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Work and Employment
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-10-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
21,192 posts, read 25,094,158 times
Reputation: 22274

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by ellie View Post
Thing is, the cost of living is less in most of the South. They may actually be coming out ahead.
That's what I was going to say. My husband's friends in Alabama bought a 2000 sq foot house for only about 50K than what we paid for 300 sq foot coop studio in NYC. Taking a pay cut in the south might still result in an elevated quality of living.

And I agree with the others, less than a month is not nearly enough time to know whether or not you can live somewhere. I lived in NYC for 12 years and honestly didn't feel that it was my home for the first few years. I grew to absolutely love it. But it took time. Give yourself the chance to get used to it, to make some friends, to get to know your surroundings.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-10-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Middle America
37,409 posts, read 53,335,525 times
Reputation: 53066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth View Post
OP, there are important parts missing from this story. Why would he choose to move to a state that pays less for both of you, and take a pay cut himself? Did you two discuss that, and if not, why not? Were there no potential jobs in his field around Boston? Or around the NE? Why would he leave an area he liked just to change jobs, and take a pay cut on top of it all?
Lower COL from Boston, off the top of my head?

I've moved to places with lower pay, because the cost of living more than balanced it out. Don't know if that's a factor, here, but it certainly could be.

OP, in regard to your post, you haven't really been in your new city long enough to know whether or not you'll warm up to it. I've moved to new states/regions, and it's taken me up to year to really get a feel for new places.

If you've already decided you hate it, there's more than the location that's problematic, most likely.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 11:47 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
9,196 posts, read 7,195,765 times
Reputation: 15313
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeng0013 View Post
Thanks for the advice.

Spouse and I are from a large mid-Atlantic city. When I finished grad school, I wanted to try another city and he stipulated that it be on the east coast, so we moved to Boston. I really loved it, he mostly didn't because he didn't like his job. Last May he said he wanted to make a job change and took a position in the south, notably in the state where salary for my position is the lowest nationwide. As background, I make about 2/3-3/4 of our total household income. We knew this before he took the job, but I did not strongly object. I didn't see how I could ask him to stay somewhere he wasn't happy.

I finally moved down here this month and start work on Monday. I hung out in Boston to become vested at my old job. I'm miserable. My new job has an awful schedule with a 20% pay cut. My husband ALSO took a small pay cut to come here, but is much happier with the work.


I don't know how to be egalitarian about this. Technically he moved at my request after grad school, but it was to a mutually satisfying location (at the beginning anyway). It seemed like it was his turn to pick the next city. But it also seems financially ridiculous to have the spouse making to majority of the income be the "trailing spouse."

We have agreed that we will look for other jobs in another city (not Boston) if I'm not happy by the end of the year. That feels really far away when I'm so miserable.
IDK, but I too stayed in an area I hated for someone I love (I was actually getting ready to relocate when we started seeing each other). Regrets? No. I'll never truly like it here, but he was/is more important than backdrop.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
10,019 posts, read 7,162,345 times
Reputation: 17116
st
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeng0013 View Post
Thanks for the advice.

Spouse and I are from a large mid-Atlantic city. When I finished grad school, I wanted to try another city and he stipulated that it be on the east coast, so we moved to Boston. I really loved it, he mostly didn't because he didn't like his job. Last May he said he wanted to make a job change and took a position in the south, notably in the state where salary for my position is the lowest nationwide. As background, I make about 2/3-3/4 of our total household income. We knew this before he took the job, but I did not strongly object. I didn't see how I could ask him to stay somewhere he wasn't happy.

I finally moved down here this month and start work on Monday. I hung out in Boston to become vested at my old job. I'm miserable. My new job has an awful schedule with a 20% pay cut. My husband ALSO took a small pay cut to come here, but is much happier with the work.


I don't know how to be egalitarian about this. Technically he moved at my request after grad school, but it was to a mutually satisfying location (at the beginning anyway). It seemed like it was his turn to pick the next city. But it also seems financially ridiculous to have the spouse making to majority of the income be the "trailing spouse."

We have agreed that we will look for other jobs in another city (not Boston) if I'm not happy by the end of the year. That feels really far away when I'm so miserable.
You kind of made your bed with that. Since you were making 70% of the income, in my mind you should have had more say on location.

You should have talked about what you wanted from location in more depth. I'm not sure what part of the south you're talking about, but being from Texas with family in Georgia & Alabama, I know what a lot of it is like. Culture is definitely different in the south than in Boston, as is stuff like food, politics, amenities, lifestyle, environent, weather.

My wife and I are both from Texas originally. The Houston area in particular has jobs for me and most likely her. Since we're from there we both know what the area and state are about, what it has to offer. We've had to discuss, what is really important in our lives? If buying a bigger box to live in (house) is the most important thing in the world, then yes the south is a better choice because they sell cheaper boxes down there.

I would never have agreed to do what you did. You sound like you're bitter, and I understand why. I'd be even more bitter than you and something like that would probably end my marriage.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
48,384 posts, read 34,511,198 times
Reputation: 73456
I can't imagine us moving anywhere that wasn't mutually agreed upon.
__________________
____________________________________________
My posts as a Mod will always be in red.
Be sure to review Terms of Service: TOS
And check this out: FAQ
Moderator: Relationships Forum / Hawaii Forum / Dogs / Pets / Current Events
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
8,340 posts, read 6,736,046 times
Reputation: 15129
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeng0013 View Post

We have agreed that we will look for other jobs in another city (not Boston) if I'm not happy by the end of the year. That feels really far away when I'm so miserable.
I didn't think I'd be getting to 56 so quickly either...Now that I am here I look back and regret..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 12:52 PM
 
3,463 posts, read 5,636,948 times
Reputation: 7218
Ive moved all over the place and generally found for me, a year going by is the make-or-break time period I needed before making big decisions. Except for Florida. I knew it was going to be horrible, I just underestimated how horrible. I knew in 4 months it wasnt for me. But, I understand you completely OP, sometimes things are just bad for reasons you cannot understand or feel like altering your lifestyle for. You know right away. The depression, etc . . . I know it and have empathy for you. People who say its "you" and "you make yourself miserable" don't get it. Everyone has their place, just takes a while to find it
Hopefully your S.O. is open to having a serious discussion about the situation. Quality of life cannot have a dollar figure attached to it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
18,813 posts, read 32,318,664 times
Reputation: 38565
Well, OP, you did agree to the move. And your hubby is just asking for you to give it 8 months. That seems fair.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 02:00 PM
 
5,243 posts, read 6,163,491 times
Reputation: 3112
My armchair psychology skills tell me the OP never really bought into the move but didn't want to actually face it head on.


I also wonder if the husband was unhappy being in such a lesser position in a city that can be as career/education/wealth focused as Boston. As a lifelong Southerner with one set of relatives in Boston and Northern friends from college & a my early professional years I can say people in the South usually mingle much more freely than many Northern cities.


I also suspect the new job/company might offer a lot less status. Its not NYC or SF but Boston is home to a ton of major companies and really successful mid size ones. Sometimes walking away from the comfort of a big or recognizable employer can feel like a step back.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-10-2016, 04:27 PM
 
Location: East Coast
4,241 posts, read 3,687,093 times
Reputation: 6459
I don't understand any of this -- how can OP be miserable already if she hasn't even started the job? And if she really didn't want to move and had a good job and made more money, I don't understand why she ever agreed to this in the first place.

It's also not clear whether this is "The South" or whether this is actually Florida. I know Florida is in the south, and obviously it's as far south as you can get, but it's really pretty different from GA, SC, NC, MS, AL, et al. If this is Miami, it's very different. While there are certainly legitimate reasons she might not like it, it is in many ways very different from being in, say, the Carolinas.

This move is obviously a big issue in your relationship right now. You have to decide what is more important -- the location or your spouse. If you hate the location more than you love your spouse, move back to Boston and try to get your old job back. If you love your spouse more than you hate the location, suck it up for a while and try to see the good sides of where you are now, or come up with a mutually agreeable location to move. (BTW: Are both of your jobs so flexible that you can pick up and move to any location you choose? You are lucky to have that option.)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Work and Employment

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top