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I currently sell an employee benefit to companies of all sizes.
When I first started, I'd do a little research on the company before contacting them. There is so much available on the Internet now as far as feedback from employees. It is sad how bad working conditions are in so many manufacturing companies. People are forced to work in freezing temperatures, or are denied bathroom breaks . . . yes, I've seen those complaints.
I spoke to a human resources manager recently at a poultry company who was only interested in our product if the employees paid for it. Later on, he admitted that none of the employees had shown any interest because most of them were on welfare and medicaid and couldn't afford anything.
People working full-time should not need welfare and medicaid, but that's how low the wages were. These people are living in a low-cost area, so their pay must be really really low. These are jobs that someone must do. Why treat people like this? And then there is the constant threat of these companies locating out of the country.
There was a writer who died a few years ago, Joe Bageant, who said that educated progressives used to stand with laborers and get beat up along with them while protesting for decent working conditions. He observed that those days are long over. Most progressives abandoned people who do physical labor decades ago. As long as their own white collar jobs weren't being shipped out of the country, they didn't care.
And then they fret over these same people supporting Trump and call them racists, when he's the only one saying anything about protecting their jobs.
I currently sell an employee benefit to companies of all sizes.
When I first started, I'd do a little research on the company before contacting them. There is so much available on the Internet now as far as feedback from employees. It is sad how bad working conditions are in so many manufacturing companies. People are forced to work in freezing temperatures, or are denied bathroom breaks . . . yes, I've seen those complaints.
I spoke to a human resources manager recently at a poultry company who was only interested in our product if the employees paid for it. Later on, he admitted that none of the employees had shown any interest because most of them were on welfare and medicaid and couldn't afford anything.
People working full-time should not need welfare and medicaid, but that's how low the wages were. These people are living in a low-cost area, so their pay must be really really low. These are jobs that someone must do. Why treat people like this? And then there is the constant threat of these companies locating out of the country.
There was a writer who died a few years ago, Joe Bageant, who said that educated progressives used to stand with laborers and get beat up along with them while protesting for decent working conditions. He observed that those days are long over. Most progressives abandoned people who do physical labor decades ago. As long as their own white collar jobs weren't being shipped out of the country, they didn't care.
And then they fret over these same people supporting Trump and call them racists, when he's the only one saying anything about protecting their jobs.
(Disclaimer: I'm not supporting any candidate. I'm just saying.)
Poultry must be one of the worst industries for illegals. I have worked in production facilities filled with illegals, and they are treated pretty well. They were paid garbage and collect welfare in many cases, but they can get away with violating rules and the jobs weren't that bad. Much more lax work environment than the companies that only hire legal workers/legal immigrants. Those places forced people to work much harder, because they have to compete with all the crooked businesses taking advantage of cheap, illegal labor.
Seriously, some of those illegals did some downright criminal things on the job, and the companies would turn a blind eye, because Americans don't want $9/hr jobs where they actually have to bust their behind. Illegals are pretty much the only option unless the company is located in a very poor community where Americans will accept any offer of employment available.
This is where our inflated standard of living is coming from folks... It's a very slimy, disgusting and tricky situation. Brought to you by the alliance of despicable politicians and soulless corporations!
I read all of them. Why would you work there? If someone treated my mom that way, I would not even apply.
Did you get any CONTEXT from all of my posts? I ask that because I mentioned several things that would already explain why I worked there (and other reasons you could simply deduce on your own) but nevertheless here goes:
1. I needed a job.
2. I was in high school (I am almost 40 now and haven't even lived in that STATE in yearsss).
3. I am from a poor town where there aren't many job opportunities.
4. For a person in high school whose mom already worked there, we were able to carpool together, etc., thereby making the arrangement easier for both of us.
5. I needed a job.
At one point, my brother worked there in high school too (I think he survived a few weeks on one of the lines?).
One of my uncles worked there for maybe a few weeks as well?
The company started out as Campbell's Soup wayyyy back when and they have changed names as well as practices over time...and not for the better.
So what once was a 'bearable' position for my mother when she first started (also around the summer I was employed there) is DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT today.
Did you get any CONTEXT from all of my posts? I ask that because I mentioned several things that would already explain why I worked there (and other reasons you could simply deduce on your own) but nevertheless here goes:
1. I needed a job.
2. I was in high school (I am almost 40 now and haven't even lived in that STATE in yearsss).
3. I am from a poor town where there aren't many job opportunities.
4. For a person in high school whose mom already worked there, we were able to carpool together, etc., thereby making the arrangement easier for both of us.
5. I needed a job.
At one point, my brother worked there in high school too (I think he survived a few weeks on one of the lines?).
One of my uncles worked there for maybe a few weeks as well?
The company started out as Campbell's Soup wayyyy back when and they have changed names as well as practices over time...and not for the better.
So what once was a 'bearable' position for my mother when she first started (also around the summer I was employed there) is DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT today.
If It was bearable then, I understand. What changed between then and now (practices) to make it unbearable?
I read all of them. Why would you work there? If someone treated my mom that way, I would not even apply.
Don't insult people for trying to make a living. People have to eat. These jobs must be done by someone. I would love to see how long those managers last on a chicken slaughtering gig. My guess is most would call OSHA on the first day. I doubt any of them contribute anything of meaningful worth to this country.
Don't insult people for trying to make a living. People have to eat. These jobs must be done.
Baloney. There are other jobs, even in rural areas, if one looks hard enough. Since that poster said conditions for mom were ok then, I understand why the poster worked there.
But if conditions were awful already for any relative of mine, I would never even apply to work there..even if my conditions would be good. It's called principles.
Would you condone someone say, selling kiddie porn, if they were unable to get another job? Gotta make a living never trumps principles for moral people.
Baloney. There are other jobs, even in rural areas, if one looks hard enough. Since that poster said conditions for mom were ok then, I understand why the poster worked there.
But if conditions were awful already for any relative of mine, I would never even apply to work there..even if my conditions would be good. It's called principles.
Would you condone someone say, selling kiddie porn, if they were unable to get another job? Gotta make a living never trumps principles for moral people.
That's a fine plan today... If you plan to live with your parents for the foreseeable future.
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Gotta make a living never trumps principles for moral people.
