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Old 08-26-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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Not really. Perhaps in some fields but in many fields development is done by teams and requires millions worth of machinery and testing equipment. Not many people could do that out of a garage.
Read Elon Musk, you would be surprised how much price inflation there is in that equipment and you don't need the fanciest model of equipment to prototype stuff.


for chemistry you could pretty much synthesize anything with maybe 5 grand in equipment, im not a chemist but there MAY be one piece of equipment that will cost you 5-10k that you have to have and cant get around but 15k max is definitely a garage set up. The problem is what would you make and how would you sell it without running afoul of the law. You would have to market under the table because otherwise the regulation and laws would bankrupt you.


If you could set up machining capabilities you could even make your own equipment.
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Old 08-26-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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While in college, couldn't STEM undergrads develop their own patents which might provide substantial passive income later? Just thinking of ways STEM professionals can make more money than accountants.
Yup. If you're a super-smart STEM grad and savy, I'm sure you have the potential to make a lot more than accountants. If you're a CPA with 5 years+ of experience, you have ultimate job security and six figure salaries for the rest of your career (plus ability to easily find jobs). As a CPA you can be a controller or a CFO and make huge money too. Both good paths. STEM probably has a higher ceiling (if you invent something/ get a patent); accounting (if you can pass the CPA) is probably the smoother, safer career path.
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Old 08-26-2016, 04:53 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Read Elon Musk, you would be surprised how much price inflation there is in that equipment and you don't need the fanciest model of equipment to prototype stuff.


for chemistry you could pretty much synthesize anything with maybe 5 grand in equipment, im not a chemist but there MAY be one piece of equipment that will cost you 5-10k that you have to have and cant get around but 15k max is definitely a garage set up. The problem is what would you make and how would you sell it without running afoul of the law. You would have to market under the table because otherwise the regulation and laws would bankrupt you.


If you could set up machining capabilities you could even make your own equipment.
I know I run a very low budget lab and buy 20 year old machines. It is still tough to buy anything for less that $30k. New costs $200k . I don't mind maintaining equipment and running software as old as Windows 2000.
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Old 08-26-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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I know I run a very low budget lab and buy 20 year old machines. It is still tough to buy anything for less that $30k. New costs $200k . I don't mind maintaining equipment and running software as old as Windows 2000.
You get high quality product and start finding a market for it and then use that cash flow to upgrade and aquire new equipment. I guarantee you can build the 200k equipment for WAY cheaper, they are charging a massive premium because they know people don't want to take the time to manufacture their own. The price tags on some of this equipment is hugly inflated and with the information age you can figure out how to put most any of this equipment together. You may have to cast or machine your own parts but for 200k savings its worth it.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:12 PM
 
Location: 89434
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This entry level engineering position offers 26k per year.

Entry Level Mechanical Engineer job - Dynalloy, Inc. - Irvine, CA | Indeed.com
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104 people have already applied to this job.

people really settle that low?
No wonder why people job hop too much.
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Old 08-26-2016, 09:19 PM
 
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This entry level engineering position offers 26k per year.

Entry Level Mechanical Engineer job - Dynalloy, Inc. - Irvine, CA | Indeed.com
After looking over this carefully, it appears that a degreed Mechanical Engineer is not being sought....makes sense since my starting pay was $29,800......in 1989

here are the clues:

If you consider yourself "technically inclined" .......OK, why does this have to be said concerning a REAL ME job?

Duties Include:
-"Hands on" training
- Machining your designs
- Experience with Solidworks is a plus

......Looks like a machinist or designer position, certainly NOT a description for an Engineer

Required education:
  • Bachelor's
.......Notice the words "Engineer" or "Mechanical" are NOT used.....Liberal Arts majors are welcome


OK, nothing to see here, move along
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Old 08-26-2016, 11:20 PM
 
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After looking over this carefully, it appears that a degreed Mechanical Engineer is not being sought....makes sense since my starting pay was $29,800......in 1989

here are the clues:

If you consider yourself "technically inclined" .......OK, why does this have to be said concerning a REAL ME job?

Duties Include:
-"Hands on" training
- Machining your designs
- Experience with Solidworks is a plus

......Looks like a machinist or designer position, certainly NOT a description for an Engineer

Required education:
  • Bachelor's
.......Notice the words "Engineer" or "Mechanical" are NOT used.....Liberal Arts majors are welcome


OK, nothing to see here, move along
There asking for an entry level mechanical engineer. Its on the ad.
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Old 08-27-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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There asking for an entry level mechanical engineer. Its on the ad.
No, they're CALLING it a Mechanical Engineering position....its clearly not however from the description and degree requirement.
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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If the economy here is so bad that Americans must relocate to other nations, we have hit rock bottom and need to hold politicians liable.
Politicians? Or the corporations that own the politicians?
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Old 08-27-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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No, they're CALLING it a Mechanical Engineering position....its clearly not however from the description and degree requirement.


Let us take a look at the ad

"If you consider yourself "technically inclined" and enjoy designing/making products that people use, this may be a good fit."

They mention "designing/ making products".

"We are a growing high-tech company with a great future looking for long-term career oriented engineers."

They straight up mention looking for "career oriented engineers".

" Experience with Solidworks is a plus"

Solidworks is 3D cad software, the most popular one thought at engineering colleges. Also, the job is titled under mechanical engineering. The people who are going to run into that ad, are degreed engineers looking for a job.
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