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Old 08-05-2016, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Wow. But if that is the case, why not just tell me when I come back from vacation?
Why ruin my vacation AND fire me?
Wouldn't a decent person allow me to enjoy my vacation and then give me the news when I get back?
Absolutely that's what a decent person would do. I actually DID get laid off 10 years ago on the day I was leaving for a 10 day vacation! I was obviously really upset at first. I couldn't cancel my vacation without losing all my money, and I was traveling with a friend, so wouldn't have been fair to her. I didn't have time to file for unemployment before I left. But the thing is, I really didn't like that job, so after a couple of days, I was relieved I didn't have to go back.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Time to start looking in earnest.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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the higher-ups are unhappy with your performance and you will need to do a performance improvement plan when you come back?

Would you have preferred that your boss tell you when he did, or wish he had waited til you returned from vacation?

Would you think your boss is telling you that, under the circumstances, you shouldn't be taking vacation at all?

On my last full time job I was told the day before my vacation that I "should look for another job while on vacation". The job had become so stressful as the company grew that I had to start working 50+ hours a week just to keep up. I kept asking for some part time help which I never got and I guess when my stress levels became very apparent they decided to hire someone else. They wind up hiring that part time person in addition to replacing me.


BTW I took my vacation and never went back. It was a blessing in disguise.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:00 AM
 
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if you're in a union and you know its going to be difficult to get rid of you - enjoy your vacation and when you get back work on the PIP! Doesn't sound like they can actually let you go, so work on improving for them. That sure beats looking for a new job - i have going through all that hassle personally.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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Maybe your boss is just miserable and sadistic and he is jealous that you are going away.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Interesting responses. A few people here don't see any issue with that?

What a crappy thing to tell someone before they go on vacation.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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He says higher ups are not happy with your performance. . What about him? Why didn't he told you about his opinion in your performance? Does he have any opinion at all?

Your boss is very weak person, really
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:21 AM
 
Location: The DMV
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the higher-ups are unhappy with your performance and you will need to do a performance improvement plan when you come back?

Would you have preferred that your boss tell you when he did, or wish he had waited til you returned from vacation?

Would you think your boss is telling you that, under the circumstances, you shouldn't be taking vacation at all?
It's impossible for a bunch of strangers on a forum to know what was going through your manager's head. Maybe he/she is being sadistic. Maybe they themselves would rather know sooner than later - so are operating under that perspective.

In the end, there's never a good time to tell an employee that they are 'failing'. In this case YOU would have preferred to not know until you got back. But as a practice, I'm sure someone else would have wanted to know before their vacation.

It's likely that this is not a sudden thing. And you taking a vacation may have been that last straw.

In either case, depending on how PIPs are viewed in your company. It may be more of a formality than an actual attempt to change your performance.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Agreed, maybe it is better to resign rather than to stick around and "cause trouble" as you say. This is what I fear.
For my professional reputation. But also for my health (I don't really have the stomach for it).

I should also mention that it will be hard (but not impossible) for them to fire me, because we are in a union. So they will need a paper trail, which will take some time of course.
Do NOT resign. Your boss IMO is an ass to do this to you before vacation.

I had a very similar thing happen to me. My boss sent me an action plan just before I went on vacation. Needless to say I found a new job very quickly.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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As far as vacation time goes, there is never an ideal time to tell someone their work needs improvement.

I would enjoy the time off and first day back schedule time to meet with superiors and set up a plan to achieve their goals with periodic meetings to discuss progress. Make sure the goals are quantifiable, not subjective. If both parties are sincere, you will get past this. If not, they will use this to streamline your way out the door.

In the interim, hedge your bet by getting your resume out there.
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