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Old 08-22-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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Right some people should not make enough to live on just let them keep living on the government handouts which I am sure you will complain about in another thread or be homeless which is what will happen if they walk. The employer would not pay more if the employee walked they would just hire someone else.

LOL-typical mw earner lives in a middle class household. Under 3% are the primary wage earner.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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So everyone is smart enough to get a skill set and if they do there will be a job for them?
If they aren't, it is not the responsibility of business to subsidize them. Their family and friends can, if they freely choose to.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:29 PM
 
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If they aren't, it is not the responsibility of business to subsidize them. Their family and friends can, if they freely choose to.
If the family and friends choose to meaning they may or may not but you do not care but it is not you and I am sure you think it is their fault they picked to go to school where there is no job available. This is the typical Right Wing answer it is their fault or someone else help them because I sure won't I have to take care of myself. Why can't business subsidize them why are we giving them a pass especially when we pay for the government assistance people get because businesses do not pay much?
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:33 PM
 
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So everyone is smart enough to get a skill set and if they do there will be a job for them?
no, everyone smart enough to learn a skill set is also smart enough to make money. Job or otherwise

stop trying to rely on luck and the chance that someone happens to have a job for you. No one is going to stand around holding up their business growth just so "storm eagle" can finish graduating. Have some foresight and plan ahead. Find areas of the economy that either will have jobs at the time in point where you will enter the work force or find something people will pay for and sell the product yourself

the people who keep claiming they were "told" a lie about going to college and having a job right after, are also buying the lie that there are no good jobs. They just keep buying lies if it makes their own life "easy". Put some work into your own life, no one else is going to even slow down to say a prayer if you want to lie down and rot away
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:33 PM
 
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LOL-typical mw earner lives in a middle class household. Under 3% are the primary wage earner.
That is probably because most mw earners live with parents or relatives because they can not afford to live on their own.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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no, everyone smart enough to learn a skill set is also smart enough to make money. Job or otherwise

stop trying to rely on luck and the chance that someone happens to have a job for you. No one is going to stand around holding up their business growth just so "storm eagle" can finish graduating. Have some foresight and plan ahead. Find areas of the economy that either will have jobs at the time in point where you will enter the work force or find something people will pay for and sell the product yourself
Except not everyone is not smart enough to learn a skill so they are not smart enough to make money other ways. Sure that is good advice to find areas of economy that pay well but that still does not change the fact that there is not higher paying jobs for everyone. Someone has to do these low wage jobs and students and high school students have to work around school schedule and usually can not work late at night during the week.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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If the family and friends choose to meaning they may or may not but you do not care but it is not you and I am sure you think it is their fault they picked to go to school where there is no job available. This is the typical Right Wing answer it is their fault or someone else help them because I sure won't I have to take care of myself. Why can't business subsidize them why are we giving them a pass especially when we pay for the government assistance people get because businesses do not pay much?

It is improper to expect business to subsidize anyone. They should simply provide a product or service.


Families used to do well providing for members unable to cope, and should do the same now.


Not strangers. Not business. Family.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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It is improper to expect business to subsidize anyone. They should simply provide a product or service.


Families used to do well providing for members unable to cope, and should do the same now.


Not strangers. Not business. Family.

We should not subsidize everyone either but we do because businesses pay so little. I agree families should help but what about people who do not have families or families want nothing to do with them. Many people live with parents today but what happens if there parents die and they have no siblings or their siblings do not want them living with them?
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:47 PM
 
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Except not everyone is not smart enough to learn a skill so they are not smart enough to make money other ways. Sure that is good advice to find areas of economy that pay well but that still does not change the fact that there is not higher paying jobs for everyone. Someone has to do these low wage jobs and students and high school students have to work around school schedule and usually can not work late at night during the week.
so, if people aren't smart enough to get someone to give them a higher paying job, why should they have the same "middle" class life?
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We should not subsidize everyone either but we do because businesses pay so little. I agree families should help but what about people who do not have families or families want nothing to do with them. Many people live with parents today but what happens if there parents die and they have no siblings or their siblings do not want them living with them?
again, why should they have the same living standards are people who do have those?

why do you feel the need to have everything equal? as in communism?
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:49 PM
 
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We should not subsidize everyone either but we do because businesses pay so little.

We have tens of millions of jobs that pay very well. It is up to each of us to think ahead and plan, how to properly educate and train ourselves to insure we present a great product to hire. Our labor, our brains, our education = our product.


That isn't Rocket Science.
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