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Old 10-17-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: West of Asheville
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If you are not the boss, then your work schedule is up to them, not you.
Yes, you have gotten away with it in the past, but now they are on to you.

I never have an employee who tells me what they will work or not work, its not their call.

In this job environment, there are plenty of people (or automation) to replace difficult employees.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Work rules can change at any time-especially if something is brought to the attention of the higher ups. OP may have coasted under the radar until now but someone may have finally brought it to the attention to someone on a higher level than his boss.

Where are you getting so many days to take time off? You said that you don't call out sick- do you have that many personal days to use? Do you mention during interviews that you need Mondays off because you are not a "Monday" person?
We don't get PTO just sick and vacation days. We also get 2 floating holidays for Christmas and Easter
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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If you are not the boss, then your work schedule is up to them, not you.
Yes, you have gotten away with it in the past, but now they are on to you.

I never have an employee who tells me what they will work or not work, its not their call.

In this job environment, there are plenty of people (or automation) to replace difficult employees.
I was informed that the pattern rule was from the old boss and it is no longer a rule regarding vacation. So I can now request any day off I want as long as I have the time and ok with the supervisor
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Yeah-it's probably because someone else wanted that day off-maybe the boss thought they had a better reason.


I would love a 4 day week-they'd be long days (10 hours) but the 3 day weekend would be worth it.


At my job it goes my seniority if too many people want the same day off. I know some people that have been here for years and years with a bunch of time-some take off whole Months, like every June for one person I know of. Now THAT is a pattern.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: here
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I was informed that the pattern rule was from the old boss and it is no longer a rule regarding vacation. So I can now request any day off I want as long as I have the time and ok with the supervisor
Ya but they don't have to approve it.
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Old 10-17-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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I worked in Workforce Management for a company for a few years. It was my job to setup people's schedules, approve time off, work with FMLA etc.

Patterns were part of my job to look for. If you have a pattern, they can deny you. They have a limit of employees who can take those days off and while you did indeed request it in advance, they may deny you due to patterns.

That being said, if HR says it's not a rule anymore then that's probably that.

I really wouldn't take it to heart. The supervisor was likely doing what he (thought) he was supposed to do.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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At the phone company we have a simple solution to this challenge. Simple, as in something everyone spends ALOT OF TIME ON all year long.

You have a work force management [system] with slots allocated every day. If there are remaining slots when you request them, then you get them. Phone company union jobs. But work center management operates the same, essentially.

It beings when you pass around the vacation schedule for "next year". And continues throughout the year.

OBVIOUSLY Mondays have the fewest slots and are usually filled by people who take the full week as scheduled vacation.

This system also applies to people calling in at the last minute for a day. You can usually forget about it.

Your company is correct in recognizing their challenge but behind the times in their methods.
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Old 10-17-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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[quote=renter16;45853542]I'm not a monday person and always been taking mondays off in the fall and winter. /quote]

What exactly is a Monday person? Do you have lunaediesophobia, which is an actual fear of Mondays? Do you spend all of Monday huddled in bed with the covers over?

I'm retired. Don't know if I was a Monday person, but I was an employee and I had to play by their rules. Didn't always like their rules, which is why I escaped the work world at age 52. Maybe it would do you better to stop telling yourself the story that you aren't a Monday person. Start telling yourself that you are their employee. You work at their pleasure and sometimes your needs/wants and theirs won't match. (And couldn't you still have a 3 day weekend sometime if you took Fridays off instead of Mondays?)

In a service environment, you will need to share with your co-workers to make sure everyone gets their turn at not being a Monday person and getting 3 day weekends. I do get that you were allowed to take off a number of Mondays, so you didn't expect this, but you took off one too many and maybe other people complained that they always have to be Monday people.

Count your blessings. You have a job. It went well for a long time---I believe you said three years that you never got angry. It's up to you to keep up a good attitude, even if that involves working Mondays like most people who work full-time.
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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I'm not a monday person and always been taking mondays off in the fall and winter. /quote]

What exactly is a Monday person? Do you have lunaediesophobia, which is an actual fear of Mondays? Do you spend all of Monday huddled in bed with the covers over?

I'm retired. Don't know if I was a Monday person, but I was an employee and I had to play by their rules. Didn't always like their rules, which is why I escaped the work world at age 52. Maybe it would do you better to stop telling yourself the story that you aren't a Monday person. Start telling yourself that you are their employee. You work at their pleasure and sometimes your needs/wants and theirs won't match. (And couldn't you still have a 3 day weekend sometime if you took Fridays off instead of Mondays?)

In a service environment, you will need to share with your co-workers to make sure everyone gets their turn at not being a Monday person and getting 3 day weekends. I do get that you were allowed to take off a number of Mondays, so you didn't expect this, but you took off one too many and maybe other people complained that they always have to be Monday people.

Count your blessings. You have a job. It went well for a long time---I believe you said three years that you never got angry. It's up to you to keep up a good attitude, even if that involves working Mondays like most people who work full-time.
My anger was well hidden this morning
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Old 10-17-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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we had to fire someone because we get three week vacation and he took off 15 mondays in a row. why did we fire him, because somebody has to cover his work while he was out.
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