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It appears they are ostracized from not only from the workplace but society in general?
I don't feel that way--ostracized. Most people I know would love to be me--would love to feel comfortable to travel alone, go where ever I want without waiting on someone else.
I swear people would rather be screwed over by corporate sociopaths than avoided or not acknowledged by the introvet/loner
Because many extroverts thrive on attention, and if someone's not giving it to them, they are going to fall apart.
Personally, as an introvert, I don't feel the need to be validated by everyone, so it doesn't bother me if someone is busy with something else and doesn't give me attention. I don't crave attention anyway.
No, you keep interpreting someone having social skills as being a social butterfly...
you can perfectly deal with people in the work place even being an introvert if you learned basic social skills
introverts can be well adapted to actually socializing with people. Stop using that as an excuse to not interact with people. It is a poor excuse for having no social skills
stop acting like "soft skills" are worthless, those skills are what holds society/culture together. Without soft skills, no one would be able to form bonds, and there would be no cities or any group of people larger than 2 people
even pack animals know how to be social with each other, it isn't all that hard to learn. Hell, even the goldfish is a social animal
Bet you don't find many "loner" goldfish in the wild, they get eaten. Guess what that means to your "loner" employee, they get eaten up as well
You seem to believe introverts don't have social skills. Many do. Many extroverted people have very poor social skills - things like interrupting constantly, demanding attention, getting up in peoples' faces, blurting out inappropriate comments, etc.
If I were hiring for a job where it was important what you say to a client, I'd hire a more introverted person, because they tend to think before they speak. Extroverts just blurt things out without thinking first.
Color me an introvert, too.
But I was also a very successful salesman and had a successful career. I just enjoy being a loner and not following the crowd.
FWIW: I am an INTJ. I love being that way. Doesn't mean I "don't like people"; it means I recuperate alone.
And like most INTJ's I think extroverts are babbling idiots.
Nothing is wrong with being social butterflies. But they aren't the ones ostracized from the workplace or society. For instance, Sociopaths aren't ostracized and outcasted from the workplace and society. In fact, they FLOURISH and run companies or even America). Its the introvert or loner (the ones who don't s*** people over for their own benefit) but don't interact on an intimate level professionally or personally with others. For instance, one of the first thing the hiring manger looks at in interviews (Before whether the person is even qualified or not to do the job) is what kinds of "soft skills" the interviewee has. Or if they are a "good fit"."
Oh, yes, introverts are excluded from the workplace entirely, in fact that is the entire purpose of pre-employment personality tests. And it's pretty obvious when the tests ask questions like "would you rather go to a party or sit home and read a book?" And employers are actually dumb enough to believe that people can't tell these test questions are for weeding out introverts.
Introverts can't even get hired in jobs that require little or no interaction with people.
It's kind of ironic because an employer had good social skills, he'd be able to assess whether or not someone else did during an interview. But instead he needs to use a test with weird questions on it.
That's not what being an introvert is. At all. Introverts like quiet alone time. They aren't bitter. Your perception is exactly the issue the OP is talking about.
All the OP does on here is rant about evil employers and how he's unfairly treated and not given a fair shake. If there is any ostracism, I think it's due much more to his bitter attitude, resentment, and negativity and not because of any real social stigma.
I'm an introvert and a loner at heart but I don't shy away from social interactions nor treat it as something distasteful. I was laid off a few months ago and just now had two competing offers for my services so I think I know a thing or two.
Color me an introvert, too.
But I was also a very successful salesman and had a successful career. I just enjoy being a loner and not following the crowd.
FWIW: I am an INTJ. I love being that way. Doesn't mean I "don't like people"; it means I recuperate alone.
And like most INTJ's I think extroverts are babbling idiots.
Also INTJ. And I agree with you, most extroverts need to shut up and think before they speak.
Which just goes to show that the OP is simply wrong, the world isn't biased against introverts. The world is biased against people with poor social skills. Human beings are social animals. We cluster by families, by age, by sports team, by neighborhood, by city,by religion, by culture... We seemingly can't stop forming groups. It is in our nature as a species. That is the OP's real problem, he doesn't want to participate in groups.
Also INTJ. And I agree with you, most extroverts need to shut up and think before they speak.
Which just goes to show that the OP is simply wrong, the world isn't biased against introverts. The world is biased against people with poor social skills. Human beings are social animals. We cluster by families, by age, by sports team, by neighborhood, by city,by religion, by culture... We seemingly can't stop forming groups. It is in our nature as a species. That is the OP's real problem, he doesn't want to participate in groups.
Why does one HAVE to participate in Groups exactly?
Go into the IT field or engineering, the majority of the workforce is more introverted which is great. A lot less workplace drama, more flexible work schedules (remote work), etc. The US, on the whole, is indeed better for extroverts. Many European countries tend to have more prevailing introverted personality types by comparison.
GS. Very true. I guess that is why most of my best friends are either Engineer's of some type or possess job skills that easily could transfer into those fields. I grew up in a Swedish household and yes, Europeans in many countries typically are a little more introverted than most American's.
The Jerry Springer TV show guest mentality that pervades the work place these days is foul. It not only leads to bad moral but also a combative work place. Egotistical jerks are responsible.
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; it means I recuperate alone.
