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Old 11-13-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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Who? China? Not going to happen. You know that, right? China holds too much of our debt. **** them off and they redeem. Thus crippling the country.

Don't folks know this stuff?

What other rabbits do folks believe Trump has in his hat?
Rabbit #1: allow construction of more pipelines, which will generate employment during construction.
Rabbit #2: massive infrastructure projects. If necessary, print the money to finance them.
Rabbit #3: tax cuts.
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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Rabbit #1: allow construction of more pipelines, which will generate employment during construction.
Rabbit #2: massive infrastructure projects. If necessary, print the money to finance them.
Rabbit #3: tax cuts.
1. Screw the environment? Keep reliance on fossil fuels?
2. Isn't that a Democrat thing? That will take money and increase Federal spending. Isn't that bigger government? Printing money and randomly messing with the money supply could have negative effects on the entire economy and on the value of the dollar.
3. Tax cut? Which taxes? For whom? Tax cuts to businesses don't always resu!t in new jobs or capital investment. A president can't tell a business how to spend the money from the reduced tax expense.
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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1. Screw the environment? Keep reliance on fossil fuels?
At least until the price of dilithium crystals comes down a little more.
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Old 11-13-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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The story makes no sense. If you read the many post right here on CD, everyone and their entire family who are unemployed and have not been able to find ANY job, be it VP of international affairs or burger flipper.

However, since almost everyone claims they are unemployed due to H1B visa holders and illegal immigration, if as we are led to believe, trump will end the H1B visas and deport all illegal immigrants, that is about the only way there will be a shortage of employees.

But, the more likely reason for a shortages will be the same as it is now, we just have a plain old lazy workforce that only wants to be paid, not actually do work.
In some cases the H1B visa excuse is legitimate. In the tech industry for example, there is a surplus of American IT workers who could fill jobs but companies are greedy and hire H1B workers to save money on salaries. By preventing those H1B visas, companies will be forced to hiring more American workers.

But I agree that with blue collar jobs, Americans don't want them. Most of that has little to do with income and more to do with prestige and quality of the work. Pop culture brainwashes our youth thus they are entitled. Young adults feel they are entitled to luxury items. Millennials with no skils or eduation feel they are entitled to iPhones, Starbucks coffee, going to bars and clubs every weekend, eating at fancy restaurants, driving luxury cars etc. In the past, people understood you had to work for those items and it took years of hard work to achieve your dreams. People would start off working in fast food, construction etc to save money to pay for college or graduate school. Today, the youth want everything NOW. It's about immediate gratification. That's how online degrees became so popular. The idea that you could go to college for 2 years, and not even attend class was appealing to them. They don't realize how hard you have to work and don't understand the concept of paying you dues. So blue collar jobs are not only low paying, it's "beneath them" Sorry, but you just aren't going to get millennials to work on farms or in construction. In their mind, that's for Mexicans and they are too good for that.
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:51 AM
 
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Rabbit #1: allow construction of more pipelines, which will generate employment during construction.
Rabbit #2: massive infrastructure projects. If necessary, print the money to finance them.
Rabbit #3: tax cuts.
Infrastructure projects would be a great way to generate employment and also very needed. I hope they don't do the wars are good for the economy route.
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:39 AM
 
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People will line up for factory jobs. They already line up for retail and food service. Manufacturing is a big step up for those people. Then the fast food joints will have a labor shortage and have to raise wages. It's. Win win for the working people.

This very thing happened during the oil boom in the dakotas. 100k a year to drive a truck. $17 an hour to flip burgers at mcdonalds. 120k to change out gaskets on rigs. Hell even bartenders were making very high salaries.

When labor is plentiful wages go down. When labor is in a shortage wages go up. Simple economics. But what do I know.
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:05 AM
 
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A lot of factories have been torn down in the last twenty years as masses of good jobs went to foreign lands in the south and India and China , in Canada the factories are mostly gone and empty lots now ........Reagan used this ideas and poor people got richer and the stock market got poorer for a season then the stock market got rich in the end of His term and Clinton took over and every one got poor again in a short time ..... So it go around and come around yo-yo .....jobs
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:23 AM
 
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People will line up for factory jobs. They already line up for retail and food service. Manufacturing is a big step up for those people. Then the fast food joints will have a labor shortage and have to raise wages. It's. Win win for the working people.

This very thing happened during the oil boom in the dakotas. 100k a year to drive a truck. $17 an hour to flip burgers at mcdonalds. 120k to change out gaskets on rigs. Hell even bartenders were making very high salaries.

When labor is plentiful wages go down. When labor is in a shortage wages go up. Simple economics. But what do I know.
I don't think a short term boom is the answer. Sure the oil boom in the Dakotas was great for a while. Now you will see empty, foreclosed houses and towns deteriorating as people leave.

I would rather see long term growth with sustainable businesses with steady employment and opportunities for people.
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Old 11-14-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...-thing-workers

Can't have millions of new Trump manufacturing jobs without manufacturing workers. So where are they going to come from? Not too many Americans lining up to do the same thing, all day long, over and over again, for 12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, for a sustenance life style. And employers will close shop before they ever consider raising wages by even one fraction of a percent. Backwards, always. It's the American way!
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If you build it, they will come. If these plants opened up in this area, they would find workers.


Temporarily I would probably be one of them. For long term goals, I'm trying to get into a graduate school program. I have a lot invested in time and financially in education as it is.


We can't all go to college. There are not enough positions to fill the surplus of degrees floating around the country.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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There has been a recent groundswell regarding apprenticeship and trade schools. Mike Row (the Dirty Jobs guy) has been an advocate. This has been before Trump, but I think it will pick up speed now.

Mike tells a story about a midwestern manufacturer that has dozens of jobs it cannot fill.

We have all been guilty of thinking the only path to success for our kids is college, but the kids with shiny new BAs are working in fast foods, while the kid finishing up an apprenticeship is making a $55k starting salary.
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