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Haha really? Show me a nurse working OUTSIDE the medical field..and if they arnt a nurse then they arent getting paid jack. Ive hired people before and if i saw someone with a Bsn and they didnt want to be a nurse, now that would raise a red flag.
No, a nurse is not as important as a doctor, if they were, they would get compensated the same. Doctors have way more education and must do residency. Thats like comparing a paralegal to a lawyer. And they were in and out? So in other words they were doing their job? Great!
I know nurses working out of the medical field--they chose to leave.
When you're in a hospital, let me know how a nurse is not as "important" as a doctor. That's a very outdated, "old" attitude actually, like from the 50's maybe? Most people are savvy enough to know just how untrue that is. You'll know how important they are, actually, in about 15 minutes from being admitted. Hospitals would be shut down immediately without nurses. They run the place, with physicians being the head of the team. Other people just as important--respiratory therapists, physical therapists, occupational, lab, etc. Even, billing, without them, the place would be in total chaos. All links on a chain. Every link has to be in place. Different jobs, that's all. Not one more "important."
I used to work with nurses at a company that hired them. It was a business that manufactured hospital beds. They wanted people there with a medical background, so they hired nurses and others with medical experience.
When you're in a hospital, let me know how a nurse is not as "important" as a doctor. That's a very outdated, "old" attitude actually, like from the 50's maybe? Most people are savvy enough to know just how untrue that is. You'll know how important they are, actually, in about 15 minutes from being admitted. Hospitals would be shut down immediately without nurses. They run the place, with physicians being the head of the team. Other people just as important--respiratory therapists, physical therapists, occupational, lab, etc. Even, billing, without them, the place would be in total chaos. All links on a chain. Every link has to be in place. Different jobs, that's all. Not one more "important."
The only part of your statement that I disagree with is that someone will realize the importance of a nurse within 15 minutes of being admitted. I'd say it's more like 2 minutes if that.
Thankfully I haven't spent a lot of time in the hospital or ER - but when I have, I'd say that 95% of the nursing staff has been absolutely amazing. I'd say the same thing for every tech and right on down to the hospital maintenance staff.
Haha really? Show me a nurse working OUTSIDE the medical field..and if they arnt a nurse then they arent getting paid jack. Ive hired people before and if i saw someone with a Bsn and they didnt want to be a nurse, now that would raise a red flag.
No, a nurse is not as important as a doctor, if they were, they would get compensated the same. Doctors have way more education and must do residency. Thats like comparing a paralegal to a lawyer. And they were in and out? So in other words they were doing their job? Great! Thats what they get paid to do!
And special personality? The same could be said for police, social workers, teachers and counselors..whats your point?
No one is *more* important; both nurses and doctors have their patch and that is what they do.
However your overall premise is not only inaccurate but totally uninformed.
When it comes to hospital/inpatient care doctors do not keep you alive, nurses do.
Aside from performing surgery, certain treatments and daily rounds you will see a doctor very little as an inpatient. OTOH nurses are around 24/7 and are the *FIRST* ones to respond when things head south. Modern hospitals were invented and or evolved for one main purpose; to provide centralized nursing care.
By profession and statue professional nurses act as advocates for their patients. This plays out in many ways but the one thing all student nurses are taught and or it is drummed into a new graduates head is this; the role of a professional nurse is to keep a patients doctor from killing them.
Nurses are the last line of defense against *harm* coming to a patient. This is why by training and education they are given deep background in various sciences and pharmacology.
Contrary to popular myth in hospital/inpatient settings nurses are *not* subordinate to physicians. Nurses have their own hierarchy, practice and standards of care. If a physician has a beef with nursing service, he can take it up with their direct supervisor and or administration. However in *NO* way do physicians tell nurses what to do. They write orders for what they want for a patient (medications, treatments, etc...) but that is not the same as telling nurses what to do.
Any experienced/senior physician will tell you, and recent post grads (interns and residents) soon learn that well seasoned/experienced nurses pretty much run hospitals. Furthermore they are often the ones new grad physicians turn to for education and or information.
No one is *more* important; both nurses and doctors have their patch and that is what they do.
However your overall premise is not only inaccurate but totally uninformed.
When it comes to hospital/inpatient care doctors do not keep you alive, nurses do.
Aside from performing surgery, certain treatments and daily rounds you will see a doctor very little as an inpatient. OTOH nurses are around 24/7 and are the *FIRST* ones to respond when things head south. Modern hospitals were invented and or evolved for one main purpose; to provide centralized nursing care.
By profession and statue professional nurses act as advocates for their patients. This plays out in many ways but the one thing all student nurses are taught and or it is drummed into a new graduates head is this; the role of a professional nurse is to keep a patients doctor from killing them.
Nurses are the last line of defense against *harm* coming to a patient. This is why by training and education they are given deep background in various sciences and pharmacology.
Contrary to popular myth in hospital/inpatient settings nurses are *not* subordinate to physicians. Nurses have their own hierarchy, practice and standards of care. If a physician has a beef with nursing service, he can take it up with their direct supervisor and or administration. However in *NO* way do physicians tell nurses what to do. They write orders for what they want for a patient (medications, treatments, etc...) but that is not the same as telling nurses what to do.
Any experienced/senior physician will tell you, and recent post grads (interns and residents) soon learn that well seasoned/experienced nurses pretty much run hospitals. Furthermore they are often the ones new grad physicians turn to for education and or information.
Very well written and dead on. Further more, if the nurse sees a error in the order they can go back and get the DR to reexamine the order or find a NP to verified what the DR intent is. ( much less read there chicken scratch). I never meet a rude nurse, but i have meet a @#$# Dr who thinks his $%$ doesnt stink.
Very well written and dead on. Further more, if the nurse sees a error in the order they can go back and get the DR to reexamine the order or find a NP to verified what the DR intent is. ( much less read there chicken scratch). I never meet a rude nurse, but i have meet a @#$# Dr who thinks his $%$ doesnt stink.
Again, the nurse worship here is staggering...so all that is read, is them doing tbeir job...wbat they are PAID to do. They are not doing anything magical or amazing.
Again, the nurse worship here is staggering...so all that is read, is them doing tbeir job...wbat they are PAID to do. They are not doing anything magical or amazing.
This might sound bad,but as an RN i agree with you!
Thanks. You are not the only one, my nurse friend also told me that CNA should not be paid extra.
Galvatron, why does it upset you so much to think of a CNA getting paid more than what they do now? Did someone who was a CNA do something bad to you? I think it's time to get past this issue.
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