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Old 02-15-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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That's what scholarships and grants are for. If you're truly cut out for a tough STEM program at a good school, then you should have done well enough to earn them to get a lot of that paid for.
I had a half ride and the loan amounts were still staggering. Getting a full ride academic scholarship is extraordinarily rare and even if you do you can not afford a single slip up. There were full ride guys at my school and about once a year or once a semester one would put a rope around their neck, that's the society we are in now dog eat dog. If you are not both ruthless and on a smart pill then your fed to the wolves.
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Old 02-15-2017, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Uh... Goddady got my business for 22 web domains.
GoDaddy wowed me with their stunning technical incompetence. Moved all of my domains to GANDI (yeah, they're French, but they could do in 10 seconds what GoDaddy's "advanced tech support" couldn't figure out in days), haven't ever looked back. Heck, I just Googled to see if I could find my chat transcript with them, and found several other people who had the exact same issue! I see no reason to ever allow them to darken my doorstep again.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Google, Facecrap, Apple all rely on h1b program to
Avoid hiring US workers. It stinks but they are never stopped. Let's hope Trump stops it.
Good luck with that . These tech companies are international they can shift work to offices outside the US just with a flip of a pen. Had that happen to me for a top tech company , My tech job went over to Germany cause they had a colo office out there decided one week they did not want someone doing the job here but overseas.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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This has been going on for the last 16-17 years under the Bush and Obama administration. When the unemployment rate was high, these American companies were outsourcing jobs overseas or hiring H1B's here and none of these Presidents or their administrations spoke out against it. In fact, they promoted it. Trump has been the first President to really even address these measures. Any time, someone tried to address this in the past, the media and financial guru's on television would immediately criticize them for promoting 'protectionism" and how it was bad for free trade.


Now it's nice to see a President call out corporate greed. The H-1B loophole is just another mechanism to promote corporate greed because they can hire people for the half the wages. It's no different than companies hiring illegals from Mexico to save on labor. Same concept! They need to come down on the H-1B fast. We will creates hundreds of thousands of new jobs for Americans if they did this.
This president is using H-1B himself for his hotels and vineyards. I don't really expect him to do much of anything is all for show
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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Good luck with that . These tech companies are international they can shift work to offices outside the US just with a flip of a pen. Had that happen to me for a top tech company , My tech job went over to Germany cause they had a colo office out there decided one week they did not want someone doing the job here but overseas.
They have to maintain some presence in the United States especially for consulting with domestic companies. There will always be a U.S. work force. The difference is they will now be forced to hiring Americans for those position. They won't like it but they'll have no choice much like Ford and Carrier.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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This president is using H-1B himself for his hotels and vineyards. I don't really expect him to do much of anything is all for show
This is a typical ignorant response. H1-B is not used for cheap labor and low skilled employees. This is a comment anti-Trump supporters make up.

H1-B is used to employ high skilled workers. It costs money to sponsor a visa so it only makes sense to sponsor them for high skilled work in which their services command high wages like technical consulting and software development.

Trump has already made pledges to reduce the number of H1-B visas available thus forcing companies to hire locally.

This should not be a partisan issue. This is not a Trump issue. This is about American jobs. You should support lowering the number of H1-B visas if you are an American and wish to employ more Americans. The only people this benefits are the CEO's and upper management at these tech companies who reap millions at the expense of American workers. These executives contrive the idea that no Americans are available to staff these positions. That may have been true at one time (read 1990's) but computer science and computer engineering graduates in the United States have tripled since then and there are more than enough local employees who could staff those jobs. They just don't want to give up their gravy train and be forced to pay fair wages to local talent. If Trump lowers the number of H1-B visa slots, all Americans will benefit and he should be applauded for this.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:59 PM
 
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They are rioting precisely because tuition is 40k a years and companies don't care about them. What differenced does a record make when your odds of making it into a paid for single family home with a good stem job are like less than 1% after years of hard ship.


And lets say you make it to a professional engineer mark, there is nothing stopping a company from canning you and replacing you with cheap H1B or some other cheap person. Its a race to the bottom so why compete to be the lowest common denominator.


This is the new normal and it will get worse, the protests wont stay peaceful as the police brutality increases people will just start shooting. We have had it comfy in the USA for a long time with companies raking in huge profits and the regular citizen able to do ok, but now we are reaching a point where a lot of people don't have much to loose.
Agreed, and the sad thing is this started 15 years ago under Bush and was perpetuated by Obama. They kept oursourcing hundrends of thousands of tech and engineering jobs during the recession and they didn't care and not even the media really made an issue of this. It wasn't until Trump ran that this issue was even seriously addressed. Trump is really the first politician who has addressed this. Even dumb Republicans in the past endorsed these practices. If you had said this during the Bush administration, a Republican back then would have criticized you for being "protectionist" Gee "protecting American jobs" was supposed to be their job. Democrats under Obama were equally dumb and just made it worse. No one cared that these tech companies kept recruiting foreign workers when American workers were out of work.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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This is a typical ignorant response. H1-B is not used for cheap labor and low skilled employees. This is a comment anti-Trump supporters make up.

H1-B is used to employ high skilled workers. It costs money to sponsor a visa so it only makes sense to sponsor them for high skilled work in which their services command high wages like technical consulting and software development.

Trump has already made pledges to reduce the number of H1-B visas available thus forcing companies to hire locally.

This should not be a partisan issue. This is not a Trump issue. This is about American jobs. You should support lowering the number of H1-B visas if you are an American and wish to employ more Americans. The only people this benefits are the CEO's and upper management at these tech companies who reap millions at the expense of American workers. These executives contrive the idea that no Americans are available to staff these positions. That may have been true at one time (read 1990's) but computer science and computer engineering graduates in the United States have tripled since then and there are more than enough local employees who could staff those jobs. They just don't want to give up their gravy train and be forced to pay fair wages to local talent. If Trump lowers the number of H1-B visa slots, all Americans will benefit and he should be applauded for this.
The problem is the key stuff is not happening yet (ie 45% tarrifs on china and Mexico on EVERYTHING, 90% or more reduction in H1B L1 or what ever other back door program exists that companies get cheap labor in from, high taxes on mega corps). Right now everything going on is political flim flam, the dearth of unemployed and underemployed people are watching and if trump cant deliver then we will get someone more radical next time around.


Why do you think young americans are not going through the grueling STEM process if at the end of all that hard work they are met with scarce and paltry job offers. Forign degree programs are not equal to a top nationally recognized engineering school. But when all a company needs is some basic task done that does not rise to the level of top tier engineering then they H1B it. The problem is there is VERY little high end engineering being done in this nation to absorb the would be STEM grads.


It used to be that companies would just blend the work all together and you would have American wage level STEM engineers working on all aspects of engineering, most easy and boring work and some really hard and interesting but now companies are trying to parse out every little thing and what they are going to find is that when the hard stuff needs to be done there will be few willing or able to do it because they will have decimated the work force with H1B's who can barely draw up a fire water P&ID.


Unless the govt starts picking up all the top tier stem grads we will see STEM decimated. Going through a legitimate top tier STEM program is HELL and when people see stem folks not employed, working for cheap, not respected as a top tier employee at work but rather taking orders like some peasant it will loose its luster.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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Agreed, and the sad thing is this started 15 years ago under Bush and was perpetuated by Obama. They kept oursourcing hundrends of thousands of tech and engineering jobs during the recession and they didn't care and not even the media really made an issue of this. It wasn't until Trump ran that this issue was even seriously addressed. Trump is really the first politician who has addressed this. Even dumb Republicans in the past endorsed these practices. If you had said this during the Bush administration, a Republican back then would have criticized you for being "protectionist" Gee "protecting American jobs" was supposed to be their job. Democrats under Obama were equally dumb and just made it worse. No one cared that these tech companies kept recruiting foreign workers when American workers were out of work.
People who use the term "protectionist" as a bad word are likely people are bennifiting either directly as a CEO or upper management or they are nearing retirement and are highly leveraged in these companies and their retirement and dividend payouts rely on slave labor to maintain their hopeful dreams of a posh comfy life on the beach at everyone elses expense.


No one else in their right mind would want globalism.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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Justin Trudeau’s plan to lure Silicon Valley investors to Canada
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