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Old 04-21-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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It's a free country, or should be. They can ask and I don't have to tell them.
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Old 04-22-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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It's a free country, or should be. They can ask and I don't have to tell them.
Oh please

One of my first interviews they asked me what type of birth control I used. Yes, back then it was legal! It was only later in the 70s was that outlawed. Would you like to tell a company how often you take a pill to get a boner? Why would that matter- could determine how many children you may have and how much it will cost the company in terms of insurance, salary, and time off, you know.

Don't tell and you won't get the job.
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Old 04-22-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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It's a free country, or should be. They can ask and I don't have to tell them.
Fine - just don't expect to get hired. If you're making $30K at a job there is absolutely no reason for you to receive an increase to $50K from unsuspecting HR rep. If you worked for $30K you have demonstrated that that is an acceptable salary on which to provide for yourself - no raise is necessary and an unnecessary expense to a firm. You all should be looking at both sides of the fence.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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Fine - just don't expect to get hired. If you're making $30K at a job there is absolutely no reason for you to receive an increase to $50K from unsuspecting HR rep. If you worked for $30K you have demonstrated that that is an acceptable salary on which to provide for yourself - no raise is necessary and an unnecessary expense to a firm. You all should be looking at both sides of the fence.
I do, but the employer will use the salary to gage how much your worth. They will see that in the past x years that your salaried hasnt increase, due to the job limits or the ability to move up. I left for better paying jobs and they all ask for my history, i just put some random numbers down that not too far fetch to keep from getting that min wage they want to pay. If they see im making 45k and i am asking for 50, it wont hurt so much and room for negotiations. ( they post salaries between 40-65k DOE) so i know i wasnt asking too much.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: CA
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California should be next to ban this question from being asks. I've have gotten the "What did you make at your previous job?" question a lot lately and I'm just sick of it. It's a way for employers to low ball on a potential offer.
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Old 04-23-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Fine - just don't expect to get hired. If you're making $30K at a job there is absolutely no reason for you to receive an increase to $50K from unsuspecting HR rep. If you worked for $30K you have demonstrated that that is an acceptable salary on which to provide for yourself - no raise is necessary and an unnecessary expense to a firm. You all should be looking at both sides of the fence.
Sure it is. And it comes down to simple economics. Skillsets are a commodity that are based on supply/demand. Suppose I was making 30K at Firm A, worked there for 3 years, acquired new skills, added value for the employer etc. and now Firm B wants to hire me. My skills are certainly worth more now. As a starting point, I'd simply say that my salary requirements are between $40-50K. Telling them I made 30K at my last job serves no purpose.

Further, HR people have compensation teams who perform market analysis yearly. This data, along with other metrics is used to establish annual budgets. A hiring manager knows what your skills are worth to his/her firm just by looking at your resume. So, there's no need for an HR rep to try and low ball an "unsuspecting" potential employee when they have the data and the budgets at their disposal.

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Old 04-23-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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California should be next to ban this question from being asks. I've have gotten the "What did you make at your previous job?" question a lot lately and I'm just sick of it. It's a way for employers to low ball on a potential offer.
Its a form of price-fixing.
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Old 04-23-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm glad to hear this because it's none of the prospective employers' business what we got paid in the past!
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Old 04-25-2017, 11:06 PM
 
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Fine - just don't expect to get hired. If you're making $30K at a job there is absolutely no reason for you to receive an increase to $50K from unsuspecting HR rep. If you worked for $30K you have demonstrated that that is an acceptable salary on which to provide for yourself - no raise is necessary and an unnecessary expense to a firm. You all should be looking at both sides of the fence.
My last job change was from a $72,000 a year job to a $175,000 a year job. If I had to reveal my salary history I would have gotten the job but I would not have taken it. If they weren't allowed to ask my salary history they would only promote from within, where they know the salary history without asking. Have you heard of unintended consequences?
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Old 04-25-2017, 11:23 PM
 
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I'm glad to hear this because it's none of the prospective employers' business what we got paid in the past!
yet, workers whine like spanked babies when the initial offer is average starting wages. This is nothing but a stupid regulation intended to make workers feel like they won some prize. Do you really think employers are going to offer you better wages just because we can't ask you what you made before? Heck No! All the regulation does is force you to learn how to negotiate salary and I can see almost all applicants blabbing their salary history because it supports their position for more money. Just a stupid game that will cost the workers in the long run.
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