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Hmmm. A lot of time, I think it's a correct call. In our job - we see each other's work fairly regularly. You can easily see when someone is struggling.
Sometimes, I have NO idea why someone was fired and I try not to speculate.
There are a few times when it was obvious that a decent employee was being targeted by a poor manager.
I'd like to believe that management had a good reason. If anyone believes it's unfair, that management knew something about the person that regular employees didn't. This is only assuming that there are decent people out there.
Most of the hourly, non-management staff that I've had to let go over the years has been for simple policy violations--generally attendance.
Most of the "good" employees that got canned were gone due to some sort of falsification of hours or expense reimbursement.
Needless to say, I am very careful to never do that.
There are a few times when it was obvious that a decent employee was being targeted by a poor manager.
This is my current situation and has been happening since I accepted the wretched job. I am POSITIVE the targeting manager has a past and has been moved around because they are a serial offender. They better hope I never find out about the priors.
When I worked in retail in college, the people who got fired deserved to be fired. Bottom line. I was almost fired, and even deserved to be fired at that time, but the same manager who threatened to fire me was also the most active and instrumental in saving my job. It was actually demonstrated competence and having a positive attitude through the whole ordeal that saved me. That manager and I are on good terms, even Facebook friends, today.
Now that I've wondered my way into the professional world, starting in 2009, most of the firings I've seen have been because of subordinates' clashes with office politics and management styles, and not because of said subordinates' attitudes or underperformance. Enough that I'd say that most firing I've seen in the professional world have been subjectivity-driven and incredibly unfair, including a close colleague's firing I witnessed three weeks ago that shocked not only me, but the entire company.
The handful of co-workers who've gotten fired from my current place of work and/or places I've worked at before, basically brought it upon themselves. They either went too far in their effort to test the limits of company policies, or they outright broke policy.
Thirty plus years ago, prior to entering my existing line of work, I worked as in-house security at a very nice upscale Japanese hotel in downtown Los Angeles. One morning around 3am, I saw one of the housekeeping staff stumble across the main lobby stone cold drunk out of his skull. Worse yet, the dude was carrying a large frozen ham which he stole from the reefers. After stopping him and allowing him to sober up in my office, I placed him on report. He was terminated that same week. I felt no joy in doing this but, this was an egregious breech of policy and common sense.
You can get away with quite a bit where I work, so I assume if someone got fired by me they did deserve it. With that said, minorities and women get more chances than a Caucasian male, especially when it comes to things like abusing FMLA, calling in too many times, etc.
You can get away with quite a bit where I work, so I assume if someone got fired by me they did deserve it. With that said, minorities and women get more chances than a Caucasian male, especially when it comes to things like abusing FMLA, calling in too many times, etc.
When I worked in retail in college, the people who got fired deserved to be fired. Bottom line. I was almost fired, and even deserved to be fired at that time, but the same manager who threatened to fire me was also the most active and instrumental in saving my job. It was actually demonstrated competence and having a positive attitude through the whole ordeal that saved me. That manager and I are on good terms, even Facebook friends, today.
Now that I've wondered my way into the professional world, starting in 2009, most of the firings I've seen have been because of subordinates' clashes with office politics and management styles, and not because of said subordinates' attitudes or underperformance. Enough that I'd say that most firing I've seen in the professional world have been subjectivity-driven and incredibly unfair, including a close colleague's firing I witnessed three weeks ago that shocked not only me, but the entire company.
The hard truth is that most firings boil down to someone in the power structure personally not liking a subordinate. If you know you did a good job and you still get canned, realize there's nothing wrong with you, some bosses are just ****ty, and move on.
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