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Banks are known for treating their employees like garbage.
They treat their customers like garbage!
Look at all the problems they caused globally with their BS ways.
Don't work for a bank.
Funny that I started out at the new (and still current after 15 years) job as a mere clerk/backup receptionist for MORE money than I was making as a head teller!
Funny also that my mother followed a similar path. She started out working for Pioneer Savings in Troy NY back in the 1950's. She wanted to move up, and she was taking business courses in night school (ended up graduating with High Honors from Albany Business School). She mentioned to the CEO that she wanted to work in the mortgage department at some point. He told that she was "a willing worker and they get little consideration." He also said (to someone else but it got back to her) that he didn't think she had the guts to quit and go elsewhere.
She went behind his back and got a job with a construction firm (that was later bought out by one of my employer's customers, wouldn't ya know!). The head of that company used to be one of the people she waited on as a teller. She said when she handed in her resignation the CEO almost had a stroke, he was so in shock.
She still has a copy of the application letter she wrote to Fitzie's Construction, where she says please not to call her employer, and that she could interview for the job over her lunch hour.
They don't. They are people who think they deserve 30/hr and a middle class life for pushing a button in a factory. They read too much Internet and not enough books (7 Habits of Highly Effective People & How to Win Friends and Influence People would be eye openers for them). Most have major attitude problems, one of them being the perpetual "victim" and that "management" is what is keeping me down and blaming immigrants/H1B etc.. It is ALWAYS someone else fault. Some seem to support downright communism/socialism to grant them a comfortable life that they refuse to play the game to work for, and yes it is a game you just haven't figured it out yet. This forum is an eye opener for me and the reason I continue to climb and succeed is due to a combination of my attitude(read the books I mentioned above), continued education, and that if this forum represents the competition out there ,well then, I look like a God amongst the "competition"
I have been in the work world since 1944 till I finally retired.
The problem for many employees, is they do not understand the first rule of job/business world.
First Rule Of Business: There is a right way, a wrong way of doing things, and most important there is a company way of doing things.
This is where so many employees have a hard time with their bosses. They simply cannot accept the fact that the company does not care if you have what in your mind, is the perfect way of doing things. They get onto you for not doing things the company way. The truth is, the company has tried a major portion of ways the job can be handled, and the odds are very much leaning towards, The company has already tried your method and have discovered the best way it to do it the company way not the way you want to do things.
Follow that rule and you will find your bosses, can become your best friend.
I have been in the work world since 1944 till I finally retired.
The problem for many employees, is they do not understand the first rule of job/business world.
First Rule Of Business: There is a right way, a wrong way of doing things, and most important there is a company way of doing things.
This is where so many employees have a hard time with their bosses. They simply cannot accept the fact that the company does not care if you have what in your mind, is the perfect way of doing things. They get onto you for not doing things the company way. The truth is, the company has tried a major portion of ways the job can be handled, and the odds are very much leaning towards, The company has already tried your method and have discovered the best way it to do it the company way not the way you want to do things.
Follow that rule and you will find your bosses, can become your best friend.
Are you a bot programmed to post this over and over or are you just forgetting things in your old age? You just posted this nonsense on the prior page.
I have been in the work world since 1944 till I finally retired.
The problem for many employees, is they do not understand the first rule of job/business world.
First Rule Of Business: There is a right way, a wrong way of doing things, and most important there is a company way of doing things.
This is where so many employees have a hard time with their bosses. They simply cannot accept the fact that the company does not care if you have what in your mind, is the perfect way of doing things. They get onto you for not doing things the company way. The truth is, the company has tried a major portion of ways the job can be handled, and the odds are very much leaning towards, The company has already tried your method and have discovered the best way it to do it the company way not the way you want to do things.
Follow that rule and you will find your bosses, can become your best friend.
It depends on what your position is within the company and how much professional liability you have. If you are a design engineer (professional engineer) then you have professional liability outside of the company and you need to say things even if you get fired because loosing your license is not worth it. Also if you get fired for something like that it could trigger an investigation.
In reality, libertarianism is not all its cracked up to be.
Which well-functioning economic system is run along libertarian lines? Which well-functioning economic system has ever been run along libertarian lines? Has any economic system ever developed along libertarian lines? So what is there to argue? That some fools read Rand, Hayek, Rothbard or whoever during their sophomore year in college and never grew up? This libertarian idealistic nonsense isn’t taken seriously from any economist, save for a few wack-a-doodles out there.
A thought experiment that economists use to try to figure out how real markets work becomes an ideal. Never mind that when left to work things out for themselves, the strong almost inevitably prey on the weak, and most of us, in at least some situations, do whatever we can get away with. We make laws about contracts and banking and all those other annoying “anti-market” rules because most of us examined history and realized that by not doing this leads to a market where no one can trust anything.
All these comments leads me to believe that the posters don't work in a "professional/corporate" setting which mostly fosters a respectful, highly educated working environment.
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Years ago, I was in the Plumbing section at a Lowe's store, and witnessed someone talking abusively to a store employee, but this employee just stood there calmly and took it.
I knew a little about the nature of this employee, from dealings I'd had with them at another, earlier place of employment, and knew they would strive to give each customer the very best in service.
All I can figure is that the employee must have had military background, to take such guff, and I wouldn't be surprised if the abusive person was inebriated.
In lower-skilled professions, both management and subordinates are usually full of their own who have real attitude problems. That said, when a subordinate gets fired (because let's fact it, it's harder to fire management), it usually is the result of their own attitude problem.
In higher-skilled professions, both management and subordinates are still usually full of their own who have real attitude problems. But, compared to those working in lower-skilled professions, the high level of attitude problems from management are more highly disproportional to the frustration-fueled attitudes amongst subordinates. Fired subordinates are, in my experience, fired because management has a stick up their arse, even if the subordinate was an outstanding performer for the organization.
Some people (likely ego-driven, hyper-alpha Trump supporters and their b*tchy spouses) will disagree with my assessment, telling me, "If you get fired, tough s**t. You brought that s**t upon yourself." But, based on my experience, I've worked for enough legitimately nasty, even psychologically sadistic, employers over the last few years that have fired some legitimately great employees. Luckily, I have only been fired from two such companies, neither of which I worked at long enough to even list them on my resume. At one of those two companies, the CEO was a screaming psycho, the companywide turnover was 90-100% annually (no lie), and I had already given my 2-week notice anyway even without another job lined up. This same CEO had told me I was doing a "good job," but she was still living hell to work for. At the other company, I worked for your prototypical, hyper-left, seemingly man-hating feminists from San Francisco, but I was able to secure a temp gig with a higher hourly pay rate only nine days after they kicked me out. Neither of those firing managers ever cited my "attitude," because I never gave them a reason to.
I was fired from the bank I worked for after I graduated from college. 16 months, no problems, I was actually the top teller in my branch - most transactions, could prove out and restock the ATM and do the branch proof at the end of the day - so they decided to promote me to head teller at another branch because their HT was leaving the bank. We figured I'd use her 2-weeks notice to get up to speed, because there were things I needed to learn. Then 2 days later we find out that the person I was replacing up and left, because they weren't going to comp her for all of the vacation time she felt she should have been receiving. So I went over to my new assignment on a 4-day notice.
It was a disaster. My new branch manager was a total ditz; she loved to brag about how much longer she had been with the bank as opposed to my former HT and BM, yet every time I asked her how to do something - ooohh, it's been SO LONG since I had to do that, I can't remember!!!! So I was stuck trying to manage an entire money vault, order money from Brink's, manage the safety deposit boxes (which we didn't have at my old branch), and do the reports and make up the work schedule for the tellers. I had no help, no training; I even went back to my old manager and pleaded with her to see if she could get me back to my old teller position. Nothing worked.
On top of all that, I wound up with a $5,000 difference, and had to sit and do nothing while two guys in suits came and did a complete audit. This is right in front of customers coming in to do their business. I had to just sit there and not touch anything the whole time.
I was fired because they couldn't find the difference. It was such a relief not to have to deal with that BS. Two of the most stressful months I've ever spent in the working world, and I've been working steadily since 1990, at 15 years old. I was out of work for 2 months before I answered the ad from the place I've been at for 15 years. They were desperate to fill the job of a woman who, for reasons no one could ever figure out, just walked off the job one day and never came back. I just told them that I had received a promotion and it didn't work out, so it was a mutual decision.
I do know one thing. If anyone ever offered me another managerial position, I would be demanding a written agreement that full training and/or mentoring would be included should I accept the position.
In lower-skilled professions, both management and subordinates are usually full of their own who have real attitude problems. That said, when a subordinate gets fired (because let's fact it, it's harder to fire management), it usually is the result of their own attitude problem.
In higher-skilled professions, both management and subordinates are still usually full of their own who have real attitude problems. But, compared to those working in lower-skilled professions, the high level of attitude problems from management are more highly disproportional to the frustration-fueled attitudes amongst subordinates. Fired subordinates are, in my experience, fired because management has a stick up their arse, even if the subordinate was an outstanding performer for the organization.
Some people (likely ego-driven, hyper-alpha Trump supporters and their b*tchy spouses) will disagree with my assessment, telling me, "If you get fired, tough s**t. You brought that s**t upon yourself." But, based on my experience, I've worked for enough legitimately nasty, even psychologically sadistic, employers over the last few years that have fired some legitimately great employees. Luckily, I have only been fired from two such companies, neither of which I worked at long enough to even list them on my resume. At one of those two companies, the CEO was a screaming psycho, the companywide turnover was 90-100% annually (no lie), and I had already given my 2-week notice anyway even without another job lined up. This same CEO had told me I was doing a "good job," but she was still living hell to work for. At the other company, I worked for your prototypical, hyper-left, seemingly man-hating feminists from San Francisco, but I was able to secure a temp gig with a higher hourly pay rate only nine days after they kicked me out. Neither of those firing managers ever cited my "attitude," because I never gave them a reason to.
It was only a matter of time.....smh
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