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Old 06-22-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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Many people, including here, appear to think that the moment you experience conflict, find yourself in difficulty with no one to directly guide you, or someone mumbles something under their breath at you, the only course of action left is to leave.

I want to say now that this is bad advice. It isn't just lazy, it is also potentially harmful, and creates unrealistic expectations about what work should be. Work is not about catering to every irritation and annoyance that you might face. You may be learning and growing in your career and employment, even if it is to your discomfort.

Work can also be about challenge and discovering how to face it positively, develop yourself, overcome obstacles, discover new meaning in work, and becoming a better worker. Some of that can be painful and some of it might hurt.

I am not preaching any kind of pulpit. Everyone is always complaining why companies want such high standards and employ meaningless people instead of real experienced workers. And yet the second there is an issue, to leave? Maybe this was the problem all along.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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While I agree that you shouldn't jump ship at the slightest bump in the road, I think it's also important to know when to cut your losses and leave a lost cause. Some organizations are run very poorly, have bad managers, or offer little in the way of growth/advancement, and no matter what you try to do to rectify it, it never gets better because they refuse to address the issues. Why should that be your problem if you're not the one greatly profiting from it? Work is a big part of our lives because we spend so much time there, and a lot of the negativity that arises in the workplace can carry over in to our personal lives. If it gets to a certain point where it's causing you, your family, and your friends undue stress, it's probably best to hit the road.

There is not necessarily a right or wrong reason to leave an employer behind, just your own reason. And that's all that should really matter. Tens of thousands of people leave jobs every day for something they presume and hope will be better. That's likely never going to change. And also, there's the idea that life is too short to stick around in a job you hate.

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Old 06-22-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Its good in theory (As its mostly the ONLY way to get a substantial pay raise or promotion since companies don't give too hoots for the growth of their workforce these days) if there are plentiful job opportunities all over and job opportunities falling from every tree branch like the 90s and very early 2000's but thats not the case these days.

When the economy was rocking, I would get tons of job offers just out of high school with no college education and little to NO work experience. I have less job opportunities now with a college degree, military experience and 10 years of work experience under my belt than I did 13-15 years ago with NOTHING.

I guess if you're "well connected" theres job opportunities out there. If you're not, regardless of how nice your resume looks, it doesn't matter.

Ive wanted to leave my job for the last year, have put in HUNDREDS of resumes and 95 percent of resume submissions lead to nothing. Not even an acknowledgement. 15 years ago, I could apply, within a week hear something, get interview, and THAT DAY there were job offers.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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I honesty feel the only people who suggest to just leave and look for another job are ones who've never truly struggled in life (especially with employment barriers) to know it's not NEARLY as easy as it sounds.

I used to live in a college town where there was an over abundance of part time positions available and not nearly enough full time positions for degree-less people just trying to make it. These part time positions, however, were either high in hours and low on pay or good pay with few hours. So for someone like me trying to make it, getting a rare job that had both (despite poor management) was something you'd keep.

That or you worked in a factory and that's IF you have a car because the buses either get home or to work, but not both.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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Problem is, if you don't leave (find new work) there's little hope for change. Only thing you can do is look for work, or try and cope.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Okay. We're allllll everywhere going to stop saying it because you said so.

And in other breaking news, most advice is not helpful, especially online.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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Most of the time the company is never going to change and you simply have no other choice but to find something else.
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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Most of the time the company is never going to change and you simply have no other choice but to find something else.
Exactly. Finding a new job is usually the best alternative. However, when I tell people this, I fully know that finding a new job could possibly take months, if not years. The advice remains the same...
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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Family situations also complicate things today. When I was single, I could change at the drop of a hat if I wanted; it was just me. Then marriage and kids and suddenly your decisions impact other people, so you don't have the freedom you did before. Esp if a spouse is working, your looking for another job often means a move which means they also need to find another job. Not a simple situation.
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:59 PM
 
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While I agree that you shouldn't jump ship at the slightest bump in the road, I think it's also important to know when to cut your losses and leave a lost cause. Some organizations are run very poorly, have bad managers, or offer little in the way of growth/advancement, and no matter what you try to do to rectify it, it never gets better because they refuse to address the issues. Why should that be your problem if you're not the one greatly profiting from it? Work is a big part of our lives because we spend so much time there, and a lot of the negativity that arises in the workplace can carry over in to our personal lives. If it gets to a certain point where it's causing you, your family, and your friends undue stress, it's probably best to hit the road.
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