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Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by dazeddude8
Yup this seems to be trend now:
1) Entry level is now 2-5 years of previous experience
2) Salary is going to be around 10-14$
3)Most likely it is temp or pier diem position
4) Oh you have been unemployed for X months.... yeah where going to take a pass
So yea... assuming you are a job seeker without an in-demand degree or connections this is what you are facing today.
The 2 current openings I have for "entry level" require 2-3 years experience, starting pay is $24-30/hour, with great benefits, and they are permanent full-time. Of the couple of dozen applicants so far only 6 meet the minimum requirements, and of those 4 look well qualified by their resumes. As long as we are getting people with experience there is no reason to reduce the requirements. It has been hard to fill a job for a few years after the economy became so much better, but now with improved confidence the better, more experienced workers are starting to move around for better pay/security/benefits.
Assuming the jobs are applicable, you have full time work post college on top of your resume. That will count more. The problem with so many fresh out of college resumes, they have nothing on them but college. There's nothing to differentiate one from the other.
The 2 current openings I have for "entry level" require 2-3 years experience, starting pay is $24-30/hour, with great benefits, and they are permanent full-time. Of the couple of dozen applicants so far only 6 meet the minimum requirements, and of those 4 look well qualified by their resumes. As long as we are getting people with experience there is no reason to reduce the requirements. It has been hard to fill a job for a few years after the economy became so much better, but now with improved confidence the better, more experienced workers are starting to move around for better pay/security/benefits.
I am curious what background/degree wise are you looking for those 2 spots? Is it something general (Liberal arts, clerical etc...) or is it something more specialized?
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I am curious what background/degree wise are you looking for those 2 spots? Is it something general (Liberal arts, clerical etc...) or is it something more specialized?
The required experience is in commercial real estate, no degree required, but preferred is Associates degree in business. All of the applicants this time do have degrees, and the current people in these positions have:
BA economics
MBA
BA in Political Science
BA Marketing
BA Psychology
The required experience is in commercial real estate, no degree required, but preferred is Associates degree in business. All of the applicants this time do have degrees, and the current people in these positions have:
BA economics
MBA
BA in Political Science
BA Marketing
BA Psychology
24-30/h for 3 years experience+degree+commercial RE exp (former RE agents?) + high COL (Seattle?).
24-30/h for 3 years experience+degree+commercial RE exp (former RE agents?) + high COL (Seattle?).
Hmmm... I'm not sure it's enough.
The middle of that range is around $56k/yr. For entry level. I’d take that if I were starting out.
The experience part is a little counter intuitive since this is entry level.
But even for a high COL, I think that is a good starting salary. Keep in mind, wages tend to go up with experience and skills. If you’re starting at $56k early in your career, it’s not unreasonable that you’ll be making double that at the midpoint of your career. The $56k is not the end all, be all. It’s just the beginning.
The middle of that range is around $56k/yr. For entry level. I’d take that if I were starting out.
The experience part is a little counter intuitive since this is entry level.
But even for a high COL, I think that is a good starting salary. Keep in mind, wages tend to go up with experience and skills. If you’re starting at $56k early in your career, it’s not unreasonable that you’ll be making double that at the midpoint of your career. The $56k is not the end all, be all. It’s just the beginning.
As long as companies get decent applicants for entry level, they will continue to demand such experience levels.
As long as companies get decent applicants for entry level, they will continue to demand such experience levels.
Exactly, as long as companies can find suckers to work long hours for low wages nothing will change. It is not hard to fill a job in the US, it is hard for an employer to fill a job with the low pay and terrible benefits they are currently offering.
Employers are essentially whining that they can't find top talent willing to work for low pay. It is like selling a house, set the price right and you will get a buyer. If the employers would pay more they would have a line of qualified candidates to pick from.
The middle of that range is around $56k/yr. For entry level. I’d take that if I were starting out.
The experience part is a little counter intuitive since this is entry level.
But even for a high COL, I think that is a good starting salary. Keep in mind, wages tend to go up with experience and skills. If you’re starting at $56k early in your career, it’s not unreasonable that you’ll be making double that at the midpoint of your career. The $56k is not the end all, be all. It’s just the beginning.
3 years is not entry level. Entry level is entry level - people out of college. 3 years is more mid-level than junior. When I had 3 years experience, I was trusted to build a department from scratch and incorporate a complex IT methodology in a company.
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