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Nowadays there are all kinds of jobs/careers where men have to take courses regarding sexual harassment, whether it be office jobs, the military, what have you. But if anything, doesn't it show how defective these guys are if such courses are needed in the first place? And if they are the type to sexually harass would forcing them to take a course on it really make a difference? I dunno, I just think if I owned a business I wouldn't want someone working for me that is so mentally retarded that he would need to know how not to sexually harass in the first place.
It reminds me how in Sweden they actually give refugees from third world countries courses on how not to harass/sexually assault women. Like...Don't you think there's an issue if you bring in men that have to be told such in the first place??? Not that likewise I feel that any man that thinks raping/sexually assaulting women is a cool thing would change their minds by such courses in the first place either.
It's all for liability and cya. If someone does something wrong in the future, they can say " we provided you x training and you signed off on not doing such things". Good bye.
Yea I don't accept the premise that people who make their subordinate perform sex acts on them for a promotion or hang porn all over the office do so because they didn't know it was wrong and weren't trained.
That is like making the gang bangers on the South and West sides of Chicago attend a training that murdering people is wrong.
Nowadays there are all kinds of jobs/careers where men have to take courses regarding sexual harassment, whether it be office jobs, the military, what have you. But if anything, doesn't it show how defective these guys are if such courses are needed in the first place? And if they are the type to sexually harass would forcing them to take a course on it really make a difference? I dunno, I just think if I owned a business I wouldn't want someone working for me that is so mentally retarded that he would need to know how not to sexually harass in the first place.
It reminds me how in Sweden they actually give refugees from third world countries courses on how not to harass/sexually assault women. Like...Don't you think there's an issue if you bring in men that have to be told such in the first place??? Not that likewise I feel that any man that thinks raping/sexually assaulting women is a cool thing would change their minds by such courses in the first place either.
Everywhere I've been. The training are for all employees. Not just men.
That said - as someone pointed out, these courses are more for liability purposes. When something does happen, it's the company that is liable. On the flip side, harassment can be subtle, so putting it out there that there is zero tolerance can help a company deal with it. As much as this board talks about how easy it is to fire someone (and it is), there are repercussions that you may have to deal with if the terminated employee felt wronged.
Nowadays there are all kinds of jobs/careers where men have to take courses regarding sexual harassment, whether it be office jobs, the military, what have you. But if anything, doesn't it show how defective these guys are if such courses are needed in the first place? And if they are the type to sexually harass would forcing them to take a course on it really make a difference? I dunno, I just think if I owned a business I wouldn't want someone working for me that is so mentally retarded that he would need to know how not to sexually harass in the first place.
It reminds me how in Sweden they actually give refugees from third world countries courses on how not to harass/sexually assault women. Like...Don't you think there's an issue if you bring in men that have to be told such in the first place??? Not that likewise I feel that any man that thinks raping/sexually assaulting women is a cool thing would change their minds by such courses in the first place either.
Don't be one of those MGTOW guys.
EVERYONE has to take the sexual harassment classes.
It's a formality. The abusers aren't doing it because they weren't trained properly. It's a common sense thing that they obviously don't give one crap about.
Although there might, possibly, maybe a small benefit in setting standards for some young people who aren't aware of proper means of behavior, that isn't the main goal. After taking the mandatory course, people no longer have the defense that they did not know it was inappropriate. If they do harass somebody, it is easier to fire them and they won't have grounds for a counter suit.
We had a lot of mandatory training on this and other subjects. If I could do it on the computer, it wasn't too bad. It was a pain if I had to drive to City Hall for a mandatory meeting. 20 minute round trip travel, waiting for the meeting to start, plus the length of the meeting all ate up a lot of time I could have been spending on other projects.
I real complaint was psychological. I had this reputation as a smart guy. I felt that I had to get a perfect score on the test, or it would reflect badly on me.
Yea I don't accept the premise that people who make their subordinate perform sex acts on them for a promotion or hang porn all over the office do so because they didn't know it was wrong and weren't trained.
That is like making the gang bangers on the South and West sides of Chicago attend a training that murdering people is wrong.
Sexual harassment is much more than just overt sexual acts and porn. Many people don't understand that making comments about a coworker's appearance, sexually suggestive comments/jokes, etc. can also be offensive and considered sexual harassment. In this forum there are many threads with posters claiming to do things that would get you into trouble at a lot of workplaces.
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