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They shot themselves in the foot and are paying the price now.
There is no overall shortage of labor, only a shortage of employers willing to do what is needed to get the labor in today's market.
Employers need to stop with all the ridiculous purple squirrel thinking and get back to developing their workforces.
The younger workforce is what has driven the employers to look for the purple squirrels and no longer are going to spend months training new employees that will quit and go somewhere else as soon as they are able to handle the job. They are against training their competitions work force, spending the time and trouble to train them.
The younger workforce is what has driven the employers to look for the purple squirrels and no longer are going to spend months training new employees that will quit and go somewhere else as soon as they are able to handle the job. They are against training their competitions work force, spending the time and trouble to train them.
As long as the company shows loyalty and raises pay as new skills are acquired, workers won't leave for the most part, at least with respect to pay.
Of course people leave for lots of other reasons, but if your competitor is paying more, then you are under paying and of course your employees are going to leave.
Employers get what they give.
I bet siemens has little issue with this.
Why would you leave a company that took you in when you had ZERO experience, trained you, paid for your schooling, gave you set raises as your skill level increased to meet market rates etc......as long as you are happy there is no reason to leave for the same money at another company.
I bet these apprentices are very loyal employees.
Last edited by High Altitude; 08-31-2017 at 09:16 PM..
The biggest issue is companies are not willing to meet the market demand.
It really is that simple.
When there was a glut of workers after the great recession, people where willing to take pay cuts, cuts in benefits, give up even thinking about working for a company that would train them since companies stopped training etc.....the workers where willing to change to meet the market, but those days are over.
The shoe is on the other foot and most companies do not want to accept it.
Their biggest issue today is they are afraid to raise prices to meet the increase in payroll and training expenses. That is the root cause right now, fear.
Companies also really messed themselves up when they stopped training. Now they have no minor league players to pull up into the big leagues.
Last edited by High Altitude; 08-31-2017 at 09:48 PM..
The younger workforce is what has driven the employers to look for the purple squirrels and no longer are going to spend months training new employees that will quit and go somewhere else as soon as they are able to handle the job. They are against training their competitions work force, spending the time and trouble to train them.
Right, rush to blame the young workforce. Do you even work anymore? What if I told you that older people are jumping ship as well. There is no loyalty from the employer to retain people. When someone gets a better offer in hand, regardless of age, they will jump ship and the employer does little to nothing to retain them. I see it every day at the company I work for. Stop blaming this on young people. It's a weak and disingenuous argument. This impacts all people of all age groups.
No offense, but your views sound very out of touch with what's really happening in the labor market. I'm assuming you haven't been a part of it in years.
The biggest issue is companies are not willing to meet the market demand.
It really is that simple.
When there was a glut of workers after the great recession, people where willing to take pay cuts, cuts in benefits, give up even thinking about working for a company that would train them since companies stopped training etc.....the workers where willing to change to meet the market, but those days are over.
The shoe is on the other foot and most companies do not want to accept it.
Their biggest issue today is they are afraid to raise prices to meet the increase in payroll and training expenses. That is the root cause right now, fear.
Companies also really messed themselves up when they stopped training. Now they have no minor league players to pull up into the big leagues.
Your assessment is spot on. They don't have a farm system, because they abandoned it long ago when they cut all internal training groups and programs. Now they expect people to come fully experienced while offering no such hands on training. Instead they poach from other companies and offshore labor abroad.
During the recession, they could do it. I remember competing with people with 5-10 years' experience an MBAs for entry-ish level jobs. They were putting 3+ years experience preferred at the time but getting people with 5-10 years' experience and an MBA. In other words, it wasn't ridiculous. I barely was getting responses, mostly because I didn't have an MBA and experience and employers were getting flooded with applications from people who did. But that was 7-8 years ago. You still have some monoliths around that think it's still eight years ago. It's not a big deal. They just won't find anyone to fill the positions and lose market share to competitors that are actually interested in hiring people in the current market.
That's exactly what's happened in my industry over the past few years. We saw the cut rate nationals rise and fall. When work was lean they could cover their jobs that pay peanuts because it was the only work available. No, eff it. I don't need more work. I need less. If they're going to pay me their peanut rates plus $200-300/day on top of them, sure. I made a tidy sum doing that a couple years ago. I never got a ton of work from them as I won't budge on my rates. Now the big nationals don't seem to have much work. They've lost too much money and too many clients back to firms with reasonable terms who can actually get the work done.
Job descriptions are pretty ridiculous these days, especially in IT. Asking for 10 years of experience in technology that existed for only 5 is no longer a joke.
Reminds of a WhatsApp joke doing rounds in India when ransomware had just shown up it's head-
American engineers have discovered the malware, European engineers are working on eradicating it. Meanwhile, Indian engineers have update their resume to state "2 years experience working on ransomware", and the HR has started asking for 5 years experience in handling ransomware.
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