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When I got hired for my current full time position (that is labeled as being permanent with the company) I was told via email (and I have the email still) that when and if the assignment I'm on would end I would be moved onto a similar project at the same pay rate, thus the meaning of being permanent. As the project has moved on and some people have been let go, it turns out that HR isn't honoring what was told to us when we were hired. It would appear that we were told what we wanted to hear just to be hired on. I've contacted the person that hired me and she gave me contradictory information about what would happen when the project ends. We recently learned of a change that may cut short the longevity of this project that should have lasted over 2 years.
I'm very happy with the job and company (except the uncertain job security) so I don't want to say what company or position (it is a very large international company), but if I'm not offered a position at the same pay rate when this one is over should I contact a lawyer? Do I have a case? If I do what should I expect to come from it or ask for?
I'm very happy with the job and company (except the uncertain job security) so I don't want to say what company or position (it is a very large international company), but if I'm not offered a position at the same pay rate when this one is over should I contact a lawyer? Do I have a case?
You are an employee at will. Your employer can march you out the door today if business conditions warrant it and you have no recourse. In most states, they just have to hand you your current pay and accrued vacation time. They don't have to give you severance pay. If you want better than that, you need to execute an employment contract before you start working. Most people aren't in the kind of position of strength to demand that.
Jobs change, companies change, people change. Maybe they lost a contract and cant hire people.
Hire a lawyer? lol
While I agree, you also need to change the mentality of some older folks on here who think that you need to stick with one company for 10+ years.
If you want to argue that there is no stability or “long term” jobs, then people also need to embrace the fact that people don’t stick around in one job for several years. This is why the term job hopping is thrown around so much these days. It is, because it is becoming the norm. Long term stability doesn’t exist, and so long term loyalty doesn’t either.
While I agree, you also need to change the mentality of some older folks on here who think that you need to stick with one company for 10+ years.
If you want to argue that there is no stability or “long term” jobs, then people also need to embrace the fact that people don’t stick around in one job for several years. This is why the term job hopping is thrown around so much these days. It is, because it is becoming the norm. Long term stability doesn’t exist, and so long term loyalty doesn’t either.
Well said! Get what you can when you can. The saying "tomorrow is never guaranteed" goes beyond just living life to the fullest. It fully equates to the working world as well.
As for the lawyer and such, yeah, no... Just start looking for a new job because no lawyer worth their salt would even go beyond a phone call with you.
I get what everyone is saying and I see that pursuing a claim would probably be pointless but what if a job tells you that a job would last a certain length just to get people on the job, then it ends 3 months later and you can prove that they knew that when they were hiring, could you then pursue legal action, or are employers just allowed to say anything before you get hired?
I get what everyone is saying and I see that pursuing a claim would probably be pointless but what if a job tells you that a job would last a certain length just to get people on the job, then it ends 3 months later and you can prove that they knew that when they were hiring, could you then pursue legal action, or are employers just allowed to say anything before you get hired?
I think this is still an assumption. If you can prove without a doubt that this is happening - then maybe you have something. But the fact is likely a lot more complicated. In the end, unless you were offered a contract that stipulated a guaranteed length, pay, etc. There is really not much you can hold them accountable for.
People lie, withhold information, or use creative language to get what they want - period. Be it employers, employees, clients, vendors, etc. Unfortunately, there is a fairly wide gray area between "marketing" vs. fraud. And there is nothing illegal about marketing.
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