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No but its not in your best interests to hire someone as an engineer and then have them doing something completely unrelated to engineering then take it out on your failure to write up the job description properly.
No but its not in your best interests to hire someone as an engineer and then have them doing something completely unrelated to engineering then take it out on your failure to write up the job description properly.
The job description was perfectly clear. Construction engineering, which entails management, project planning, etc. Since he was also an SE, I expected him to be able to resolve several structural issues, which he also failed to do.
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I think I just figured you out. I have also dealt with people like yourself quite a bit. And it explains perfectly why you're not understanding what I'm saying.
Hint: Doing the absolute minimum the job description entails may work in school, but out in the real world you're in for a surprise.
I agree to disagree.
Last edited by MetroWord; 10-22-2017 at 11:04 PM..
If you can't find a job there is something wrong with you. Stop trying to blame it on the world.
I agree with this, as someone who hires entry level in the banking industry, I can say there are jobs out there, even if you don't think you technically qualify. I look for transferrable skills and good work history!
And I don't need you to have a college degree.
Did you take the time to put together a resume and included your work history, dates of employment? Is it free of typos?
Did you complete all of the profile questions?
Did you include your email and cell number? Is your VM full or not set up? Are you checking your emails?
Do you have your professional references ready? Are your professional references aware you used their name, and prepared to speak on your behalf?
Did you include a cover letter so I understand why someone from the Midwest wants to work on the other side of the country, or why you want a career change?
How is your work history? I don't care that you work at McDonald's or a local gas station, I just care that you can show me that you don't jump jobs every 6 - 12 months, and can hold a job.
Did you show up for the actual interview on time, and presented in a professional manner? Did you actually read about the company, and prepared with answer/ask questions?
Did you send a follow up thank you email, emphasizing your interest?
If someone thinks this is a lot to go through just to get a job, then that is exactly why you still don't have a job.
I agree with this, as someone who hires entry level in the banking industry, I can say there are jobs out there, even if you don't think you technically qualify. I look for transferrable skills and good work history!
And I don't need you to have a college degree.
Did you take the time to put together a resume and included your work history, dates of employment? Is it free of typos?
Did you complete all of the profile questions?
Did you include your email and cell number? Is your VM full or not set up? Are you checking your emails?
Do you have your professional references ready? Are your professional references aware you used their name, and prepared to speak on your behalf? Did you include a cover letter so I understand why someone from the Midwest wants to work on the other side of the country, or why you want a career change?
How is your work history? I don't care that you work at McDonald's or a local gas station, I just care that you can show me that you don't jump jobs every 6 - 12 months, and can hold a job.
Did you show up for the actual interview on time, and presented in a professional manner? Did you actually read about the company, and prepared with answer/ask questions?
Did you send a follow up thank you email, emphasizing your interest?
If someone thinks this is a lot to go through just to get a job, then that is exactly why you still don't have a job.
Just my two cents....
I am going to ignore most of this, as most of this is common sense disguised as groundbreaking information.
I will address the bolded point.
How do you phrase, "I am moving across the country because there are no jobs where I live", in such a way that gets you an interview? Just curious.
Fed Chairwomen Janet Yellen disagree. The Fed reserve says the labor market is tight. Employers are having an incredibly difficult time finding qualified candidates. Mouth breathers who expect top dollar while bringing next to nothing to the bargaining table are a dime a dozen, like always.
No jobs? From my perspective I see something else.
We had 12 positions in my department. Tried finding people to fill these positions and had a hard time filling 5 of them. We ended up hiring two guys in assistant positions so that they could learn the things we needed them to do. At the time we were only looking for one assistant. These are not low wage jobs. The assistant pay starts at $17 an hour. These jobs come with full benefits, employer paid health insurance including medical, dental, and vision. All free for the employee. Low cost for dependents. For example for a family of eight I pay $126 a pay period to cover all those people.
Each of these jobs has growth opportunities. For example the assistants can qualify to become Building Engineer I within a year or two and a very nice increase in pay. Within a year or two after that they could qualify to become Building Engineer II and on up to Building Engineer V. Others that have experience could start further up the line. We were trying to hire Building Engineer I, II, and III. We ended up filling only one BE III, one BE II, and three BE I
Now we are looking for people to fill five evening positions. But the people need to have boiler and chiller experience. They need to know about building systems, electrical, plumbing.
All that in one department and where I work we have something like 30 departments. We have two hospitals and over a dozen clinics. Many of them are looking for people. We are not the only hospital hiring. Ventura County is home to 8 hospitals and all of them are hiring. Another couple hospitals are in Santa Barbara. All of them are hiring right now.
Most of the jobs though are for skilled people, licensed people, those with some kind of education. Also many jobs in Housekeeping, Laundry (We are one of the few hospitals left that has its own laundry facility.) Food service, and Transporter positions. These are mostly your entry level positions and they seem to fill quickly. Transporter's deliver patients within the hospital from the patient room to surgery, or surgery to the rooms, or maybe to have some kind of test. They also assist when a patient is discharged. Those jobs go faster than I have ever seen a job go. Mostly young people that want to work in a hospital. Many of them are waiting to get accepted into a Nursing program.
Talking about Nurses, the world needs more Nurses. We had a glut of RN's for a while. Everyone was going into Nursing school back in the early to mid 2000's. When the recession hit we ended up with more people than jobs. That has started to change. We are paying what we had been paying before. Back in 2008 an RN could start at $33 an hour and within 6 months be up to $36 an hour. Within a year the RN could be making $45 an hour. That ended and we started paying RN's $22 an hour to start. Now we are back up to the $33 range.
Healthcare is going to continue to grow. The largest construction projects in my area are with healthcare. We are in the completion phase of a new 325,000 square foot 6 story hospital to replace an aging 200,000 square foot facility. The aging facility will be re-purposed and more than likely part of it will become a skilled nursing facility. We also recently rebuilt our other hospital and are in the process of building a replacement skilled nursing facility next door to that hospital. Down the street from us the county hospital added a new wing. Kaiser is about to open a brand new multi unit clinic in the area. It is a three story medical building. With Kaiser they are combining three aging facilities into one larger one. They are hiring to fill positions as well.
Not everyone can jump into these positions today. Someone may need to go back to school. Someone may need some other kind of training. I get that. I also get the fact that in the coming years we will still need to fill positions. I know of three guys that will be retiring from my department in the next few years. One is leaving in a year. Another two years. We had a painter that had been here since 1979 retire a couple weeks ago. Other hospitals are going thru the same thing, we have an aging work force that is about to retire and plenty of good jobs to fill. Someone that sees what is about to happen and wants these jobs should take the time to learn the specific discipline that interest them.
The job description was perfectly clear. Construction engineering, which entails management, project planning, etc. Since he was also an SE, I expected him to be able to resolve several structural issues, which he also failed to do.
Edit.
I think I just figured you out. I have also dealt with people like yourself quite a bit. And it explains perfectly why you're not understanding what I'm saying.
Hint: Doing the absolute minimum the job description entails may work in school, but out in the real world you're in for a surprise.
I agree to disagree.
also in school you have professors, teaching assistants and 'group projects' to have your hand held. In the 'real work world' you are in for a surprise if you think that what was passable in school will be anywhere near acceptable in the real world of work
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