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Biggest thing is to not indicate anything negative about your current team. Keep it about you and your development and keep it as positive as possible. You love the org, you enjoy your current job, etc.
Make something up that is believable about how this other team aligns better with where you see yourself going.
Given the information that the OP's position cannot be filled for months it isn't in your immediate manager's interest to let you change teams. It is all about his performance after all.
Apply elsewhere then after a year or two of great work at the new job take a look again at opportunities with your current employer. That may seem like a long time but you will be amazed how the months fly by.
Biggest thing is to not indicate anything negative about your current team. Keep it about you and your development and keep it as positive as possible. You love the org, you enjoy your current job, etc.
Make something up that is believable about how this other team aligns better with where you see yourself going.
Best of luck.
Great advice all. Definitely helping to clear things up a bit. Gfuse I'm going to definitely bring up the points you mention. Agree with all the posters that mentioning anything negative will probably not go over well with the new team.
Company policy states that employees are free to switch teams after 1 month. So no issues on that end.
I've done fantastic work in the time I have been with the team. Just been three months of non stop chaos.
What does your internal policy say about when to notify your current manager? Just follow the policy. Also, don't worry about what your current manager thinks. This is business. People come and go all the time.
What does your internal policy say about when to notify your current manager? Just follow the policy. Also, don't worry about what your current manager thinks. This is business. People come and go all the time.
Good advice. Internal policy states that at some point we have to complete an official application for a new role. When the new application is submitted the manager is notified. Recommended that we notify our managers before the official submission.
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You said your skill set is better matched to the other job so that's what you say when asked.
Just make sure you've had a [good] formal written performance review from your current boss before you enter the transfer into the system.
Thank you. Performance reviews happen on a yearly basis. So, won't be able to use that as leverage. Just going to have to do the best to convince the new team I am worth taking a chance on.
Biggest thing is to not indicate anything negative about your current team. Keep it about you and your development and keep it as positive as possible. You love the org, you enjoy your current job, etc.
Make something up that is believable about how this other team aligns better with where you see yourself going.
Best of luck.
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You can also consider mentioning that the day-to-day job doesn't align well with what you thought you were interviewing for. That's a legitimate complaint and won't get you in the same hot water as complaining about people. It's a bit higher risk than being purely positive - it will increase the chance you get the transfer, but also put you first in line if there are ever layoffs. These both come from the same source: you are flagging to your boss that you are at risk of quitting the job if you don't get what you want, which makes them less likely to try to block a transfer because you are doing good work but also makes them more likely to choose you for the chopping block if they need to cut people.
Good advice. Internal policy states that at some point we have to complete an official application for a new role. When the new application is submitted the manager is notified. Recommended that we notify our managers before the official submission.
Thank you. Performance reviews happen on a yearly basis. So, won't be able to use that as leverage. Just going to have to do the best to convince the new team I am worth taking a chance on.
OK but most new people should be getting intermittent reviews and feedback, in my companies I worked in. So you're not surprised after a year of "poor performance" blindside.
At the phone company EVERYONE gets a monthly sort of spot check review, in fact, to see if they're meeting metrics. It's the fundamental basis for your yearly performance review. They just don't go by memory "Oh he's good/bad" LOL. Well ok. some businesses do!
Maybe ask your boss to give you feedback on how you're doing in your current job. Even if you AREN'T looking for a new position, it's a good idea. I'd be asking what is expected of me for the upcoming year so I could get an OUTSTANDING RATING!
If he refuses and blows you off, you document that and enter it into your secret "blackmail file" ha ha. Ok that's harsh. Call it your secret self preservation file.
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