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People look at this situation all wrong. Instead of complaining about what others are making beneath him, he should be complaining about why others are making 3x his amount for doing less work. If he thinks a fast food worker doesn't deserve $15 an hour for simply making burgers, then I must also not deserve $65k a year for doing relatively unexciting, mundane office work such as sending emails and changing numbers in Excel spreadsheets.
well you are really the only one that understand the point, if you are complaining about a minimum hour job flipping hamburger, and instead demand $15 a hour for a minimum hour job, there are other jobs out there that pay more but the extra education or talent needed is really not that much more.
for some it just be a simple night course or on line course, and most companies will train you
Minimum wage should be based on local costs. Obviously in San Francisco costs are very high. OTOH, in Cleveland it may be possible to rent a place for $300. Based on rule of thumb a weeks pay, $7.50 an hour might be livable.
One good way to find out is have the employees making less
than $15.00 minimum stop doing what they do for about a
week and see how it impacts society. Then decide from there
whether they're "worth" it.
Should be enlightening, as well as entertaining.
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That is a wise statement. I am a preschool teacher who makes $10 an hour. If everyone in my school disappeared, no one would have day care or preschool. There would not be enough teachers there for ratio and the school would have to close. Parents would have nowhere to take their kids and one of the parents may have to stay home which reflects a hit on what they can buy as a family.
But they probably will not find many people who make $15 or more to be at a store where they can buy something or online. Or at a grocery store or at a restaurant.
I feel the problem is that there are qualified people who cannot find jobs in their field and there has to be a living wage because preschool teaching, retail and the food industy has value too. Why would people say it does not. Try going without janitors and maids for months. Their work has value so out work places do not get dirty and piled up with garbage.
That is a wise statement. I am a preschool teacher who makes $10 an hour. If everyone in my school disappeared, no one would have day care or preschool. There would not be enough teachers there for ratio and the school would have to close. Parents would have nowhere to take their kids and one of the parents may have to stay home which reflects a hit on what they can buy as a family.
But they probably will not find many people who make $15 or more to be at a store where they can buy something or online. Or at a grocery store or at a restaurant.
I feel the problem is that there are qualified people who cannot find jobs in their field and there has to be a living wage because preschool teaching, retail and the food industy has value too. Why would people say it does not. Try going without janitors and maids for months. Their work has value so out work places do not get dirty and piled up with garbage.
You should be paid more than $10 an hour. Preschool teachers have to pass background checks, get training and certified, right? Fast food workers do not have to jump through those same hoops; so if anyone's wage is raised to $15 an hour, it should be preschool teachers and child care workers. Not someone taking orders at a fast food counter. I also feel childcare has more value than restaurant work, because many people can eat at home. There's no real need to buy fast food. But there is a serious need for childcare.
Haha, see what happens when every fast food place and grocery store shuts down because the workers make minimum wage. I’m pretty sure lots of people would be singing a different tune.
it is my opinion and only my opinion but i feel minimum wages should only be for part time high school kids, I feel once you hit, let say 19-20, it should be illegal to hire older people at minimum wages. Minimum wage should be for specific labor force, fast food etc.
there are so many jobs out there that doesnt paid minimum wages.
the preschool teacher, you need to be around $17 or more
Minimum wage should be based on local costs. Obviously in San Francisco costs are very high. OTOH, in Cleveland it may be possible to rent a place for $300. Based on rule of thumb a weeks pay, $7.50 an hour might be livable.
If someone would set up dorms you might get a rent like that. Add health insurance, sick days off, family emergencies and everything else and it's not realistic.
Don't assume pay is high in SF because of "costs". My daughter was in a top 10 law school, editor of the law journal and also a degreed engineer - and lives in the bay area. She wanted to go into public interest law. Starting salary - $40K.
She lived in a basement apartment for a couple years and didn't have a car.
While your point holds a little bit of water, it is dripping hard. I need to write this story and copy and paste it because I tell it so many times......
In 1974 outside of Nashville TN I worked the lowest paying job available on a home construction site. I had no skills so they had me hammer together corner posts.
$5 an hour. In the Boonies in the mid-south. 1974. I had health care through the community I lived in so didn't get or need it from the job.......but let's pull out the old inflation calculator.....
$5 in 1973 is equal to 26.47 today.
When we ran out of work we lined up at the "temp" manual labor place. I think anyone of sound mind can understand they pay the lowest wages at any given time. Manpower (agency name) - $3.60 an hour - min. wage was 2.10 in the boondocks).
Today that would be $19.06
So - you see how your friends (business) have applied the thumbscrews little by little so you don't feel it?????
The min wage should be $17 an hour or so. $15 is short based on OUR history - not communism, not socialism, not cheating, but an honest days pay for a honest days work.
Now - here you are telling us that someone can survive on 50% of that? That's crazy talk.
Even if we took the min wage at the time and indexed it - it woud be 50% or more higher than your number.
We've been screwed and most people don't know the fact. They know we've been taken for a ride - but they don't know how it was done and how bad it is.
The min wage should be $17 an hour or so. $15 is short based on OUR history - not communism, not socialism, not cheating, but an honest days pay for a honest days work.
This is empirically false. It's only been above $10 in real terms twice (in the late sixties).
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