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Facts. Employees have a right to look out for themselves just as the employer does.
That's right. But for some mysterious reason... so many of us live life as if there is no tomorrow. Or yesterday. Just living for the moment. Expecting the world to stop in orbit for us.
Didnt we have a lengthy discussion about this a few months ago? Not enough employees are applying due to the low unemployment rate.
No, not enough employees are due to lack of competitive compensation.
I assure you, a blueberry farmer will have thousands of applicants if he was offering $250,000/yr to pick blueberries. Walmart will have thousands of applicants if they were offering $100/hr to be a cashier.
Didnt we have a lengthy discussion about this a few months ago? Not enough employees are applying due to the low unemployment rate.
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Originally Posted by jonesg
Open a business and see how long you last with your money at stake.
I was a very generous liberal, then I opened a business and got dope slapped by reality.
Liberal vs conservative has nothing to do with this. In fact it's really a very Libertarian concept. Simple supply and demand. If the demand for employees is higher than the supply, then wages/benefits should go up. Low unemployment rate should be driving incomes up.
Unless there is some outside forcing function acting to keep wages down. Illegal immigration for one. H1B for another. Slave wages in China and some other countries.
You act like employers share NONE of the blame. If you offer wages below market value and treat your employees like crap, don't stand back and point the finger at them when nobody will work for you. Like I said it works both ways, blame doesn't solely rest on the employee or employer, both must take responsibility.
But this is America, so holding employers accountable for their actions is seen as a joke. It's always the lazy employees fault, right?
This is the crux of the matter.
People act like it's all the (potential) employees fault for doing what they do.
Maybe, just maybe, companies do some things that could be called into question.
Didnt we have a lengthy discussion about this a few months ago? Not enough employees are applying due to the low unemployment rate.
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Originally Posted by boxus
No, not enough employees are due to lack of competitive compensation.
I assure you, a blueberry farmer will have thousands of applicants if he was offering $250,000/yr to pick blueberries. Walmart will have thousands of applicants if they were offering $100/hr to be a cashier.
Ah, so glad to see that some people around here understand basic economics.
No, not enough employees are due to lack of competitive compensation.
I assure you, a blueberry farmer will have thousands of applicants if he was offering $250,000/yr to pick blueberries. Walmart will have thousands of applicants if they were offering $100/hr to be a cashier.
Finally, we get to the heart of the matter. Unfortunately, those who have never owned a business and and therefore haven’t lived the stress of making a profit believe the answer is always to raise wages. As I’ve said before on here unless you’ve lived it, it’s very easy to say what should be done with someone else’s money.
Whether you’re making widgets or cars does not matter. The only thing that matters is the bottom line. If you aren’t selling a product for a price people can afford, you won’t be in business for long. The price of that product reflects the total cost of doing business, including wages and benefits,taxes and insurance,workers Comp,and a dozen other fixed costs. Every time one of those costs increases the business owner has to either absorb those increases, or pass them along to the customer in the form of higher prices.
What I’m trying get to is the fact that depending on the business and the products it makes, there may be a very good reason for lower wages. Remember, the consumer has the final say in how much it will spend on a product. To assume the companies are unethical monsters whose sole purpose is to screw the little guy is asinine.
Oh, and I have helped create a $700 Million dollar budget, so I do know just a bit about the subject matter.
Huh? Farming is what it is. So Americans only want the jobs that are clean and easy? Seasonal or not, wouldn't an unemployed person do better with 4-6 months of income in their pocket vs nothing at all?
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easy to say when you know you'd never have to do it! I love those ivory tower folks who say unemployed should do this and this, when they themselves would never do it, and they know it
Open a business and see how long you last with your money at stake.
I was a very generous liberal, then I opened a business and got dope slapped by reality.
There is some truth to this... you never know till you walk in another's shoes...
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