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Old 02-21-2018, 11:41 AM
 
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Compliance is another one. Not really a specific degree for it in college. But many compliance jobs pay $50k or higher, and require a bachelor's degree at minimum.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Sales.

Get a degree in underwater basket-weaving, but if you can sell there is always a place for you in most organizations and no one gives a rats *** what your degree is in.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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For the majority of the general population, probably a trade job such as plumbing, electrician, construction, or carpentry. Hard to automate and phase out of the workforce and usually in demand, whether recession or not.

Or you can develop a charismatic personality and become a youtube or instagram star

Or play computer games and become pro
I was looking around at the trades recently and elevator/escalator installation/repair has top pay.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Unfortunately, will sales you have to be BS artist, with a gift to gab, and walk around with a fake smile on your face every day and downright borderline sociopathic or charisma out the wazoo which makes others flock to you. . It is more merit-based with the commissions but we all can't be social butterflies unfortunately. If you're an introvert by nature/nurture, you won't do too well in sales. Most of the skills needed for sales require inherent social ability from birth or childhood
Disagree.

I'm a natural introvert who enjoys being alone. But I was #1 salesman out of 2500 at my company.
I worked at it, though. None of it came natural.
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:27 PM
 
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Disagree.

I'm a natural introvert who enjoys being alone. But I was #1 salesman out of 2500 at my company.
I worked at it, though. None of it came natural.
he thinks being introvert means no social skills... and dislike of interacting with other people
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Old 02-21-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Disagree.

I'm a natural introvert who enjoys being alone. But I was #1 salesman out of 2500 at my company.
I worked at it, though. None of it came natural.
You’re probably not as introverted as you think you are. True introverts will be more analytical and prefer that type of work in solitude. than possessing the necessary soft skills required in sales to be successful. Or you may just be an anomaly. Without fall, I’ve NEVER seen a sales rep in the corporate field that didn’t have a gift to gab, with a certain look, or some form of charisma. You also may enjoy being alone but can “turn it on socially” when you need to. True introverts can’t do that. Or if they try to, it comes off as unappealing


Can you do daily small talk? Introverts can’t stand that. Which is why I couldn’t sell a life jacket to a drowning man
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Old 02-21-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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You’re probably not as introverted as you think you are. True introverts will be more analytical and prefer that type of work in solitude. than possessing the necessary soft skills required in sales to be successful. Or you may just be an anomaly. Without fall, I’ve NEVER seen a sales rep in the corporate field that didn’t have a gift to gab, with a certain look, or some form of charisma. You also may enjoy being alone but can “turn it on socially” when you need to. True introverts can’t do that. Or if they try to, it comes off as unappealing


Can you do daily small talk? Introverts can’t stand that. Which is why I couldn’t sell a life jacket to a drowning man
I've come up as an INTJ-Architect personality type. And while I do enjoy solitude from time to time, I can also be very social when necessary. I think that you're confusing personality types with lack of social skills altogether.

It's kind of like how I started out not very comfortable around guns early on in life. But once I started taking target practice more and more, I felt A LOT more comfortable around them. And while I'm not obsessed with being around them, if I need or want to, I am more than capable of handling one on my own.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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You’re probably not as introverted as you think you are. True introverts will be more analytical and prefer that type of work in solitude. than possessing the necessary soft skills required in sales to be successful. Or you may just be an anomaly. Without fall, I’ve NEVER seen a sales rep in the corporate field that didn’t have a gift to gab, with a certain look, or some form of charisma. You also may enjoy being alone but can “turn it on socially” when you need to. True introverts can’t do that. Or if they try to, it comes off as unappealing


Can you do daily small talk? Introverts can’t stand that. Which is why I couldn’t sell a life jacket to a drowning man
From what I’ve read on the subject any personality type can do any job if they work enough at it, but some types are much more geared toward some careers than others. So for example a highly skilled introvert could still be an amazing salesperson, but if they put in the same amount of time and effort they’d be an even better mathematician.

Then like you said he might be an extrovert who thinks they’re an introvert. It seems like that is MUCH more common than introverts who think they’re an extroverts. Myers Briggs personality tests are good indicators though like any tests of their sort they have their flaws.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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I've come up as an INTJ-Architect personality type. And while I do enjoy solitude from time to time, I can also be very social when necessary. I think that you're confusing personality types with lack of social skills altogether.

It's kind of like how I started out not very comfortable around guns early on in life. But once I started taking target practice more and more, I felt A LOT more comfortable around them. And while I'm not obsessed with being around them, if I need or want to, I am more than capable of handling one on my own.
I guess its possible to make the transition from introversion into a more extroversion role like sales but its probably going to take A LOT of training/practice and mentoring from the employer/hiring manager and as we have seen these days, who the hell is going to invest that much time and effort into you with hours of mentoring? Companies today want you to hit the ground and running with a very short period of time with little to no training in anything you do. So its important you probably get a job that you are already have a pre-disposition or an aptitude for. Gabbing, Socializing, Small Talk, Soft skills aren't my strong point and neither are things like the trades. I have limited ability in either so Im not going to even bother trying my hand at those because it would feel like a nightmare every day and I know damn well no one is going to mentor me into becoming successful at those things since employer's don't want to invest in their workforce today.

You have to be involved in what your strong points are if you want to be reasonably successful or stay employed
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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Meh I suppose entry level, but I like to leave questions like this intentionally vague to get a greater variety of responses. So don’t feel limited to just focusing on entry level stuff. Sometimes I then get info I didn’t even know I was looking for

Also, for what it’s worth my undergrad degrees are in journalism and film. I also have a master’s degree in journalism. None of those really set you apart when seeking employment. Or if they do the jobs they set you up for don’t pay particularly well. I’ve since established a career in mental health, but only after I started in a position I could have gotten with literally any bachelor’s degree.
They set you apart if you're seeking jobs in journalism...
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