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Old 05-02-2018, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If the subject of this discussion works at a high-tech startup read (or listen to as it is also an audio book) "Chaos Monkey". The writer is an idea-man (brilliant actually) who cobbles together a Silicon Valley start-up with highly skilled programmers. Ultimately he is fired by Facebook because of conflict with a manager, not because he didn't make $ for the business. It is a cut-throat world out there, everyone for themselves along the way to building a business. Take note as to who wins and loses in the startup game.

If you have a skill set they desperately need it is not in THEIR INTEREST to promote you. You need to look at this relationship like a business, your business. In the Valley employers recruit (ok, steal) the talent they need. Know what you are worth and figure out how much money it would take you to 'cross the street'. If you live in the Valley consider how much it costs to recruit technical talent from out of town.. you are there and they don't need to fork out money for a moving package.

You won't be promoted because you are doing a great job, you will be promoted if you can teach or lead others to do the job.

Don't be afraid to protect your work with patents and DO NOT SIGN AWAY YOUR PATENT RIGHTS. You can even see some of this during the 60-Minutes program about CRISPR(sp).
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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If the subject of this discussion works at a high-tech startup read (or listen to as it is also an audio book) "Chaos Monkey". The writer is an idea-man (brilliant actually) who cobbles together a Silicon Valley start-up with highly skilled programmers. Ultimately he is fired by Facebook because of conflict with a manager, not because he didn't make $ for the business. It is a cut-throat world out there, everyone for themselves along the way to building a business. Take note as to who wins and loses in the startup game.

If you have a skill set they desperately need it is not in THEIR INTEREST to promote you. You need to look at this relationship like a business, your business. In the Valley employers recruit (ok, steal) the talent they need. Know what you are worth and figure out how much money it would take you to 'cross the street'. If you live in the Valley consider how much it costs to recruit technical talent from out of town.. you are there and they don't need to fork out money for a moving package.

You won't be promoted because you are doing a great job, you will be promoted if you can teach or lead others to do the job.

Don't be afraid to protect your work with patents and DO NOT SIGN AWAY YOUR PATENT RIGHTS. You can even see some of this during the 60-Minutes program about CRISPR(sp).


It makes sense but don't expect a high performer valuable employee to stick around then if you're being selfish with your business. A selfish/one-sided business relationship isn't healthy
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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Apply for the job.

If you don't get it, time to start looking elsewhere.
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Old 05-04-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: The DMV
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I'm sure I was considered, obviously since I mentioned it so many times, but 99% sure they decided to pass and move on to other candidates
What's obvious to you may not be to others. But again, you simply saw that position being created to be posted. This has no bearing on you being passed over (nor any indication that this job is yours - unfortunately). I'd say be patient and see what happens. If nothing else, confirm your worst suspicions - then make your decision (stay, leave, etc.).
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:19 AM
 
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I worked for a startup and moved up multiple times managing teams by the time I was 25. I’d talk to them and ask what you need to do to get to where you want to be. If they can’t give you a clear path it’s time to leave.
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Old 05-04-2018, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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You are not valued as high as you think you should be and it will most likely stay this way. Move out to move up.
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Old 05-08-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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What the OP and many others are thinking, is just because the OP has been on the job a very short time, he/she should be promoted to head the department.

What is not being considered, is what are the companies goals and needs. There is a lot more to being a manager, than just being able to do the job. There are other parts of management, that the OP may or may not have any experience or knowledge. Also the OP does not know the employers long term goals for that department, and what is involved in the future. Again it may take more knowledge and experience in the future, than the OP has.

Just because he/she has been on the job for 3 months, does not mean the OP has the experience, and education for the long term needs and goals for the manager for that department. They may be thinking of enlarging the department, combining it with other departments. They may be thinking of adding something altogether new to that department, and need someone that is experienced in the addition.

With a fast growing startup, they very often will be planning on starting some new projects the department manager will be over in addition to this one, the OP and other employees have no knowledge of.

Expecting automatic promotion after about 3 months on the job, without knowing the companies plans for the future for the person given management over a small department is ridiculous.
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