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I work In Software development in nyc and I only make 80k.
The people who make 100 figs in it/engineering in nyc, most are on contract or temp work.
Getting a full time 100k job in nyc is harddddddddddd.
Did I say it was hard, cause it is.
Don’t be fooled thinking every engineer or it is making 6 figs.
Most who say they are, are freelancing and that doesn’t have benefits and you usually owe on your taxes.
Thank you. Another excellent post that disproves this “6 figure average IT NYC” nonsense.
It’s sad Lekrii actually needed a person who works there to re-state it, but it had to be said nonetheless. Common sense just isn’t so common.
They're not likely to make 999,999. If they are LUCKY, they're making 100,000. And Rock20 is right, that's barely enough to live due to the ridiculous cost of living in NYC.
Starting pay for a lot of IT positions are more than 100k. And no... you aren't barely living due to the cost of living. Again.. nothing special... but you'll certainly won't be at the bottom of the pay scale in NYC.
I work In Software development in nyc and I only make 80k.
The people who make 100 figs in it/engineering in nyc, most are on contract or temp work.
Getting a full time 100k job in nyc is harddddddddddd.
Did I say it was hard, cause it is.
Don’t be fooled thinking every engineer or IT professional is making 6 figs.
Most who say they are, are freelancing and that doesn’t have benefits and you usually owe on your taxes.
And even then 100k in nyc is not great when you are looking to buy a house or even a co op in nyc. Unless you want to buy a co op in the Bronx or Staten Island.
NO one claimed that every engineer or IT professional is making 6 figures.
No one claimed that living fairly well in NYC involves buying a house.
I'm a development manager and I am part of the hiring process. We are in the NYC area in NJ and at times have to compete with NYC salaries for hiring. With a little experience, your salary range is closer to NJ than NYC. On occasions, we'll offer 6 figures for someone with experience and domain knowledge we need but is hard to find.
You picked a random field within IT. "Software Developer" is as valid as "IT Specialist". Why did you pick that one? "IT professional" is literally any white collar job in the IT field.
$106k is a lot more than $65k. This thread is about software developers. It's about more than software developers as well. It's about all of IT. That why it's such a useless thread. It's about a field that covers someone on the geek squad at best buy to a top tier software engineer. We're also only talking averages, meaning people can make a significant amount more. You don't plan your career around average pay.
I enjoyed your sarcasm though. It didn't do anything to help you, but I do look forward to more of it.
This is true too.... its a broad range and for the most part the salary reflects the individual's ability to differentiate them selves in the job market. It also matters if you work a position that is considered core to business.
But certainly, I wouldn't say "IT is currently, or turning into, a sweatshop". Especially if you are in Software development.
One of the things NYC offers is a lot of startups that are heavily involved in technology but not purely just technology... financials, advertising, and recently mental health. If you are up to it, it can be a great experience and financially wise if they succeed and you are along for the ride.
This thread is about IT sweatshops, developers are routinely excluded from that bunch.
Yet you seem to love posting on it.
Says the guy who just said this was a useless thread. Do you always contradict yourself like this?
You picked a random field within IT. For the third time, why did you pick "IT Specialist"? It was not mentioned before you chose it. You took the phrase "IT professional salary NYC", typed it into Google and pasted the first result that comes back here.
"IT Professional" isn't a career. It's describing any number of careers within IT. That's why the title of the position you linked is not even the same as what you searched for.
$106k is the average for the profession within IT I picked. I gave you a link and everything. I suggest going back and actually reading what you respond to. Read the rest of this thread as well. Many of the people responding are saying software development is a 'sweatshop' today.
Again, please read what you're responding to first.
Starting pay for a lot of IT positions are more than 100k. And no... you aren't barely living due to the cost of living. Again.. nothing special... but you'll certainly won't be at the bottom of the pay scale in NYC.
That's true, there are IT people making less than 100,000 in NYC. And probably living in their cars.
That's true, there are IT people making less than 100,000 in NYC. And probably living in their cars.
I know some very low waged non IT people on section 8 housing and welfare. They aren't living in cars. Not really sure why a person in IT making less than 100k would be living in their car.
I know some very low waged non IT people on section 8 housing and welfare.
Section 8 has a huge waiting list of many years.
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They aren't living in cars.
They probably were before they managed to get off the waitlist and got the section 8 voucher.
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Not really sure why a person in IT making less than 100k would be living in their car.
Because they don't want to be paying 2-3k month for a crappy apartment, and are looking to escape NYC by saving up as much as possible. Or maybe they're working ridiculous amount of hours and don't want to add another 10-15 hours of commuting time to that mix.
You know, those who have initiative and want to make their lives better - those who are actually GOOD employees.
This is true too.... its a broad range and for the most part the salary reflects the individual's ability to differentiate them selves in the job market. It also matters if you work a position that is considered core to business.
But certainly, I wouldn't say "IT is currently, or turning into, a sweatshop". Especially if you are in Software development.
One of the things NYC offers is a lot of startups that are heavily involved in technology but not purely just technology... financials, advertising, and recently mental health. If you are up to it, it can be a great experience and financially wise if they succeed and you are along for the ride.
That’s very true, start ups usually offer more than well established companies in my experience.
Startups are sketchy though, I had a ex coworker who worked at startup for a year, and he said the company went bankrupt after a year, and one day the ceo stopped coming in lolol.
The established companies usually will offer you below market rate in my experience, because they sell you their brand. And they know it will look good on your resume, with their company on it. You can work your way up, but it’s hard to get in with a full time salary at 6 figs and benefits.
I think it’s a scam also, because if you go on indeed you will see the same job listed for 4 months, multiple times by a big company. I think they just put a listing up to say they cant fill the role, and ask for a H1B1 at half the market value.
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