Do you feel bad for people that never managed to get a decent job/career? (secretary, bankrupt)
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In US 40 is when employers think about laying you off
50+ ur in the next lay off unless you got magic tricks
60-65 forced into early retirement
Exactly right.
The joke is the social security's full payout is dependent on working until you are 70 1/2. At a time, when corporation are forcing workers into early retirement at 60 - 65.
Major corporations are firing older Americans and replacing them with Foreign workers on visas.
They are hiring two or three younger and/or foreign employee for the same cost of an American who work 20 to 30 years with this corporation. Never mind the jobs which are shipped overseas, like 24 hour call centers. Now, those jobs are in India or the Philippines.
Well, I always wonder when I see older people work in low end jobs, working minimum wage, great at their job, going the extra mile. Why aren't they working better paid jobs??
Most of them don't even look like they partied in in their youth. I partied through my 20s, recovered at work and still got somewhere.
Came to the US at age 29. Limited English skills. No recognized degree. Worked my way up from babysitting. If I can do it, everyone can. Just met a guy, proudly told me he is employee of the month at Whole Foods, grocery night stocking. If you are so great, why are you working for $15/hour at age 40? Why aren't you the grocery boss there?
So, you are saying anyone can get plane fare to the US pretty easy. No assistance needed in leaving their country or getting a ticket or getting into the US - nothing. And, with limited English they can get a job babysitting pretty easy for a family that doesn't speak the same language they do. The newspapers are filled with ads for them, no references or recommendations required. Uh huh...
I honestly don't believe that is quite how it went. Sorry, but just because you did it, it doesn't mean everyone can.
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I went back to college later in life. I couldn't finish though. My mother-in-law broke her hip and needed my assistance at home. I worked full time and cared for her in the evening. I do regret never having finished my degree, but I will never regret being there for family. The person you speak of probably never will either. Some things are more precious than money and material goods.
Apparently you didn’t see my other post where I also stated that my neighbor has a full time nanny who she pays $20 an hr! And as far as paying a 12yr old $10 hr to babysit, I think that’s a pretty good gig at that age! My point is, there are jobs one can do that pay more than minimum wage that don’t require a degree and much skill.
And of course it’s not always someone’s fault that their unemployed! The company I worked for closed down last year and I was unemployed BRIEFLY. However people who cry they can’t find a job and have been unemployed for a year or so is just ridiculous. That means they are either being picky, not seriously looking or not willing to relocate. When I lost my job I had another within 2 weeks that was comparable to what I had. How? I networked with people at similar companies and got an interview right away!
I know several college grads who were nannies for a short time. Off the book jobs with no benefits, no health insurance, no social security or unemployment benefits.
There are no promotion opportunities. Future employers will turn the noses down this job. Everyone single person who was a nanny, needed to get a master's degree and retrain to get the nanny job off their resume. An all around easy, but bad choice.
I've relocated a number of times for employment. Not anything I would wish on anyone. So stressful. It costs thousand of dollars and relocation packages do not over all the expenses. Selling a house in a down market for relocation is economically crippling event.
Not everyone can relocate. Some people are responsible for elderly parents. Divorced parents are legally not allowed to leave the state. Moving to an area with children and without any support is amazing difficult.
There are industries that are common enough were you could find another job quickly. However, not every industry or job skill set is that common.
Depending on who you work for, some companies tread lightly around the potential "age discrimination" issue.
What corporations do is "downsize." This event fire mainly white males over 60. At the same time, they fire in a few 20 to 30 year olds. This drags the average age is below 60 years old. This makes it difficult to sue.
Apparently you didn’t see my other post where I also stated that my neighbor has a full time nanny who she pays $20 an hr! And as far as paying a 12yr old $10 hr to babysit, I think that’s a pretty good gig at that age! My point is, there are jobs one can do that pay more than minimum wage that don’t require a degree and much skill.
And my point is that in order to be a nanny one must have references. Surely no one is going to hire someone to be a nanny and they have never done that type of thing before.
As far as other jobs one can do without a degree and pays more than minimum wage, you will still need experience. It's not like you can just go out and pick which job you want with no strings attached. Employers have their expectations and if you don't meet those then you are out of luck.
Like I said, get your head out of the sand and stop acting as if people can control their destiny. If that were the case there wouldn't be so many unemployed/underemployed people. People wouldn't get sick. We'd all be rolling in the dough. But life does not work that way in the vast majority of cases. It doesn't matter if "some" made it. I am for ALL making it. Sure there are things we can control, but we cannot control every single thing. Life happens. Bad things happen. The fact is the unemployed are looked down upon and some of the employers will not give them the time of day.
What corporations do is "downsize." This event fire mainly white males over 60. At the same time, they fire in a few 20 to 30 year olds. This drags the average age is below 60 years old. This makes it difficult to sue.
That's right and what does not get mentioned is that the driver for this is for the most part health care costs. Reducing the average age of the workforce is directly proportional to the group rate they can negotiate.
I know several college grads who were nannies for a short time. Off the book jobs with no benefits, no health insurance, no social security or unemployment benefits.
There are no promotion opportunities. Future employers will turn the noses down this job. Everyone single person who was a nanny, needed to get a master's degree and retrain to get the nanny job off their resume. An all around easy, but bad choice..
Nannies earn around 40K where I live and this sometimes includes benefits such as free housing and paid vacation time. The only possible reason future employers look down on this work is because it's childcare. Other than that, it's hard work that requires a high level of responsibility and multi-tasking. Also, I know someone who worked as an au pair for two years, in his twenties; he got a job using his degree later on. Didn't seem to be an issue.
Nannies earn around 40K where I live and this sometimes includes benefits such as free housing and paid vacation time. The only possible reason future employers look down on this work is because it's childcare. Other than that, it's hard work that requires a high level of responsibility and multi-tasking. Also, I know someone who worked as an au pair for two years, in his twenties; he got a job using his degree later on. Didn't seem to be an issue.
Free housing? Living in the spare bedroom where you are on call 24/7 isn't a benefit. It's better paid slave labor with no payment into social security or unemployment benefits and no future.
Free housing? Living in the spare bedroom where you are on call 24/7 isn't a benefit. .
Nannies don't work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I don't know where you got that idea from. They work the same types of hours most others do. 40 hours a week. Their employers can't violate labor laws and force someone to work 24 hours a day. We had an au pair who only worked 45 hours a week, never more. They aren't "slaves" as you put it and some people work as nannies for a life-long career.
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