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I’ve never had, nor do I personally know anyone, who has had a salaried job like that.
You need to come check out some of the millennials in my office. They're like the dry cleaners: in by 9 out by 5. The guys who sit around me are never there when I arrive and are always gone before I leave. If I did not look around, it'd be like they never appeared at all.
I’ve never had, nor do I personally know anyone, who has had a salaried job like that.
My job most people come in at 10, and leave at 5. Salaried, but they check their work on their phone. And are always available by cell when they leave.
Last salaried job was the U.S. Navy which I left in August 1954. I was always a commissioned salesman, or manager getting paid a commission on sales made by others.
Being paid a salary, or hourly would be so much lower than I earned on commission I never wanted to work at those type of jobs. By the time I had been out of the Navy for a year, I was earning $125,000 to $150,000 in today's dollars then got to where I made real money.
Hourly IMO as most places add OT to anything worked over 8 hours in a normal work day. As a salaried employee you can work 12 hour days, 6 days a week but your pay remains the same.
Or I can work 6 hours a day for 4 days this week - and still get paid the same. In the end. salaried positions are often based on a role. You're not really paid based on time, but rather your productivity. That said - many places still frame your work around "time" and business hours. But there are also a lot of places now that don't really care where/when you work as long as you get your work done. It's just not for everyone. Some like the consistency of coming in a 8 and leaving at 4. While other's like that flexibility of being able to take that two hour lunch or go shopping during the day - but will still check email at 10pm at home.
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Originally Posted by Lekrii
Practically speaking, which do you prefer?
What you're describing sounds nice in theory, but practically speaking really doesn't exist outside of pure commissioned sales. For most jobs, measuring individual productivity is not possible to the extent it could be the sole driver of income.
Maybe not objectively. But most places aren't paying you to show up at 9 and staying till 5 either. They're expecting some output/deliverable from you. And depending the organization, they can care less where/when you get it done (within the confines of your colleagues needs of course), as long as you get it done.
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Originally Posted by MacInTx
You need to come check out some of the millennials in my office. They're like the dry cleaners: in by 9 out by 5. The guys who sit around me are never there when I arrive and are always gone before I leave. If I did not look around, it'd be like they never appeared at all.
And this really only tells you when they're sitting at their desk. Unless that job can only be done at that desk, it really doesn't say anything about their work. I've had staff that I didn't see for a few days. I didn't really care as long as their job was still being done. On the flip side, having someone sit next to me for 12 hours doesn't necessarily mean this is a star performer either.
My job most people come in at 10, and leave at 5. Salaried, but they check their work on their phone. And are always available by cell when they leave.
It's been nothing like that anywhere I've ever worked. I've essentially had the schedule rigidity of an hourly employee, but the higher level of responsibility and unpaid overtime of salaried exempt.
Not only did I graduate college slightly over a month ago, but I also lucked out to the extent where I had a positioned lined up before my graduation date. I am now a salaried non-exempt employee working in finance, and I love every second of it! I don't miss anything about punching into a clock, taking short breaks, and having my paychecks fluctuate occasionally. Now I can come into and leave the office pretty much whenever I want to, take hour-long lunch breaks, leave my desk for free coffee and/or the bathroom whenever I want, and I make more money in two weeks than I would make in more than a month at some of my lowest-paid salaried jobs.
Being only 22, I am SO happy that I will most likely be a salaried employee for the rest of my life! The best part is that, along with taking home larger paychecks within a relatively short span of time (it is entirely possible that I could surpass six figures by the time I turn 30. I'm taking the steps now), I will retain this same level of freedom!
This reminds me of one of my favorite newspaper cartoons. Two guys sitting at a bar, drinking. One has a pager on his belt (yeah, the cartoon was from years ago). The pager keeps beeping. The other guy says, "When are you going to answer that page." Pager guy says, "They pay me $5 an hour to be on call. They'll need to cough up a lot more than that for me to be on answer!"
LMAO!
I haven't read the comic strips in so long but that brought a smile to my face.
And that's right - if I answer, that's when double-time starts!
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