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I have a moral and national obligation to care for my fellow citizen? Why should I care about some middle class person in India, Singapore, or Kuwait?
I'm Indian american and would like to see a severe reduction in these dual intent immigration programs. We should instead focus on giving the "elites" immediate pathways to citizenship. That way, they will assimilate and their kids will become americans.
I'm Indian American work as a machine learning engineer. I'm not worried about Indians or other immigrant taking my job. Instead, I realize that I have a MORAL and NATIONAL obligation to help and support my fellow citizens. I DO NOT have those same obligations towards people in India, Singapore, or any other country.
Here is the problem, there are not enough American students interested in pursuing engineering degrees,not enough American students who can support the engineering departments and research. So Universities recruit foreign students and businesses recruit from these universities, so its hardly surprising the vast majority of engineers are from other countries. They are not hired cheaper than American engineers, there just isn’t enough American engineers.
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I have a moral and national obligation to care for my fellow citizen? Why should I care about some middle class person in India, Singapore, or Kuwait?
I'm Indian american and would like to see a severe reduction in these dual intent immigration programs. We should instead focus on giving the "elites" immediate pathways to citizenship. That way, they will assimilate and their kids will become americans.
I'm Indian American work as a machine learning engineer. I'm not worried about Indians or other immigrant taking my job. Instead, I realize that I have a MORAL and NATIONAL obligation to help and support my fellow citizens. I DO NOT have those same obligations towards people in India, Singapore, or any other country.
Your only obligation is to worry about yourself and your family. That's the American way. Why don't you let everyone else worry about themselves? I want your help like I want a colonoscopy.
Your only obligation is to worry about yourself and your family. That's the American way. Why don't you let everyone else worry about themselves? I want your help like I want a colonoscopy.
So I should ignore the opioid crisis and just say who cares...people can kill themselves if they want.
I'd say that is immoral.
As a citizen, most of us love America and want to see this country do well. Thus, we will continue to push and advocate for policies that help Americans.
Historically immigrants from every nation at every skill level are very success focused, those with get-up-and-go got-up-and-went from their natal nation.
Doesnt always work that way . I work with big oil cos and they are always finding ways to cut costs - offhsoring first preference and layoffs last. Either way American citizens get the boot. Its partly greed and majority incompetence from management.
The great companies IBM, Accenture, Cognizant etc?? they have more tech workers in India than US. If you have some BS in STEM and can do some Java or .NET coding, remember the above companies have 100 Indians ready to do your job. How do you think the Tatas and INfosys go from 1mn revenue in 90's to 10bn now??? And that is with average folks. An IIT or IIM treats this job like crap and wouldnt even accept a position here.
You need to choose your thing wisely. Find out those skills which align with the core businesses of companies and then get on it.
Considering how fast technology changes, hoping to get the "right" skills for the right job so that employers don't have to train anymore for their exact skillset requirement that they won't budge from seems to almost require a Bachelors in Divination these days. Even if you study for those skills while in high school and into college, they could be obsolete and out of demand by the time you graduate.
I focused more on Java (mainly because that's what more of the coursework required) in college than web, though I did study both. Had I known ahead of time that the local job that was web based but seemed to rarely be hiring would suddenly have an opening (they are a small company and could possibly go YEARS without hiring), I would have focused more on HTML/PHP skills after graduation on my own and not bother with Java. But I did not know that, so I ended up falling short on the skills test. (It didn't help that my dog had died around the time of the interview/test either. I had that dog since 1999 and she died in 2016.)
If it were possible to hire foreign workers who were equivalent to American workers in terms of education/skills/experience at 1/3 the cost, no Americans would ever be hired. Everyone would hire 100% foreign workers.
You are right!
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But that's clearly not happening.
False!
It is happening in Silicon Valley where 75% of techies are H1B/L1/OPT visa holders and those who transitioned from those visas.
Here is the problem, there are not enough American students interested in pursuing engineering degrees,not enough American students who can support the engineering departments and research.
False.
Employers whine loudly about the STEM shortage. Americans have answered the call in droves.
As a result, 75% of STEM degree holders are working outside of STEM. That's 11 million people. Another Look at the STEM
So yes, there are more than enough American students interested in pursuing STEM. They are not rewarded with jobs when they do.
Apparently, they aren’t good enough to get those coveted jobs. Hits a little close to home, doesn’t it?
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