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Old 08-28-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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This may apply in your location, but there are plenty of states and cities where folks are hired off the street.
Again, it doesn't work that way out side of a few rare examples. Those are called day laborers. $12 an hour or less with no benefits or steady paycheck.

Are you even qualified to answer this question? DO you own a construction company?
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Houston and Lake Charles can't find enough skilled trades such as electricians and welders. You won't get rich, but it's a very good living.
That's all well and good, but this guy wants a job on a 'try it out' basis with zero professional experience. Not a skilled tradesman by a long shot.
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:12 PM
 
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Again, it doesn't work that way out side of a few rare examples. Those are called day laborers. $12 an hour or less with no benefits or steady paycheck.

Are you even qualified to answer this question? DO you own a construction company?
Now you have done it. Here come the posters who live in areas where they are OVERJOYED to hire day laborers to do handyman or landscaping work from the Home Depot parking lot for $25 to $50 an hour.
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Old 08-28-2018, 03:10 PM
 
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Hi all, I am asking because I hope to advise a friend, a young man age 20 with about 30 hours of college credit but had to suspend his education because of financial reasons. He lives in a medium sized town in central Texas and is interested in exploring the trades, possible construction, electrician work, etc.

He is naturally a fixer/repairer and has taught himself some skills, but has zero experience. What path do you suggest he go to get on a crew or otherwise begin to learn on the job?

Are there employment agencies he should approach? Should he simply start contacting local construction companies?

One idea I had is to get a job at Home Depot or the like and learn/get connected from that perspective but that may be a non-starter so I haven't suggested it.

Any advice is appreciated.
I don't know whether he is interested in carpentry. Electrical is very lucrative.
A vocational college is a good idea to get a certificate and then an apprenticeship. I know you said he doesn't have finances. There are often government bursaries and sponsorships to learn a vocation as there is a demand for it. Why hasn't he gotten a student loan to continue his college course?

I don't really know if you are looking for residential or commercial construction. You are more likely to get hired on the spot on house-building sites if you can drive a nail and use a measuring tape. You'd be the grunt to start out or a temporary helper.

Home Depot would not be necessarily beneficial for him. Home Depot trains their employees by video and a test afterward all done by computer. The knowledge is minimal just enough to get by. There is no guarantee what dept you will work in. Employees are sent where management wants them and sometimes hop from dept to dept. If you are already a plumber or electrician and want a retiree type of position you will be put into those depts. Wages are minimum. If you can live on that all the more power to you.
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Old 08-28-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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Option #1. Join the Air Force and finish school part-time..

Option #2. Work any job and at age 21 move to Connecticut and work at General Dynamics Electric Boat building submarines.

Think long term.
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Old 08-29-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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Hi all, I am asking because I hope to advise a friend, a young man age 20 with about 30 hours of college credit but had to suspend his education because of financial reasons.
Why is he ineligible for student loans?
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Why is he ineligible for student loans?
He's not. He racked up about 20K in Fed and Parent Plus loans over about 2 years and just couldn't stomach any more debt. He wants to pay off a lot of it before going back into school, but wants to make sure he is on the right vocational track before taking out more loans for education.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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He's not. He racked up about 20K in Fed and Parent Plus loans over about 2 years and just couldn't stomach any more debt. He wants to pay off a lot of it before going back into school, but wants to make sure he is on the right vocational track before taking out more loans for education.
A blue collar worker is a have-not. There are people who have a BA who are in similar circumstances, but a person with a degree has a chance. The blue collar worker has none.


Debt is sometimes necessary,
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Old 08-29-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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A blue collar worker is a have-not. There are people who have a BA who are in similar circumstances, but a person with a degree has a chance. The blue collar worker has none.


Debt is sometimes necessary,
A chance for what?

He feels it best right now to be learning a trade, earning money, paying down debt, and setting himself up for opportunities down the road to finish his degree in a field he has chosen, ideally with tuition assistance from an employer.
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Old 08-29-2018, 02:36 PM
 
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I think his goal is to figure out the trade he wants to get into, and he is unwilling to start trade school and spend more money until he has a direction. Are there roles on a crew where he gets to help out in different ways and acquire basic knowledge?

He's not planning to go back for a traditional BA at this point.
Have him get a helper job with a remodeling contractor or general residential carpenter.

He will be exposed to a little bit of everything basically and can go from there.

It isn’t going to be easy. Be prepared to do everything no one else wants to do. Lift heavy stuff, dig, fetch, climb up high on ladders etc....

Check craigslist or wherever the local contractors post in your area. You can get a helper job pretty easy since most people wash out pretty quick.
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