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How do you get around this? I don't want my current company to know I am considering leaving until a written job offer has been made, but I feel like my current employer is the most important to have when it comes to the role I am trying to get.
OP, how many threads are you going to create asking questions that have to do with the the same job you just interviewed for? Not only are these answers easily found in the internet, you never even replied to any of the advice you were helpfully given on your other threads. There is no job offer until you get an official offer letter in hand or email that you sign and return.
OP, how many threads are you going to create asking questions that have to do with the the same job you just interviewed for? Not only are these answers easily found in the internet, you never even replied to any of the advice you were helpfully given on your other threads. There is no job offer until you get an official offer letter in hand or email that you sign and return.
Because this is a forum where I would like to read other peoples experiences and I am asking ADVICE to prepare myself for the future when I DO get a job offer. You could say the same about most posts on here that could be googled by people, but I would like to hear personal experiences and I'm being proactive. How about if you have nothing nice to say you just don't respond?
How do you get around this? I don't want my current company to know I am considering leaving until a written job offer has been made, but I feel like my current employer is the most important to have when it comes to the role I am trying to get.
You wisely provide references of people who you got their permission. These people are only those you have selected. They can be former supervisors, just don't use your current supervisor. Most smart people use co-workers they can trust to keep their mouths shut and/or they build up a network of people to use as references.
After an offer, they do a background check, and that is done with a 3rd-party the company has a contract with. They contact everyone and ask for dates of employment. Background checks are used all the time, not just for getting a new job, but for getting a loan, security clearances, etc. HR in real companies don't even handle this any longer. If someone called a former employer's HR of mine, they would be directed to the 3rd-party company to do the verification.
So your current company has no clue until you tell them that you're leaving the company.
There is a big difference between having references and a background check for employment.
So no good company is going to call up and speak to your current supervisor asking about your work history simply cause you applied for a job elsewhere. Unless you gave them permission to do so.
How do you get around this? I don't want my current company to know I am considering leaving until a written job offer has been made, but I feel like my current employer is the most important to have when it comes to the role I am trying to get.
I did this once and I did not get the job. This is a ridiculous policy. What can you do?
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That’s what we do, tell them that they are the leading candidate and we need to check the reference before making the offer. If they cannot provide 3, or we cannot contact at least two of them, then we move on. We don’t want to make an offer and then withdraw it if we don’t get good references. We ask for 3 people that are not family but are familiar with their work. It can be current or former co-workers, supervisors, or customers. It does not have to be their current boss.
That’s what we do, tell them that they are the leading candidate and we need to check the reference before making the offer. If they cannot provide 3, or we cannot contact at least two of them, then we move on. We don’t want to make an offer and then withdraw it if we don’t get good references. We ask for 3 people that are not family but are familiar with their work. It can be current or former co-workers, supervisors, or customers. It does not have to be their current boss.
I find this whole process laughable. So you list 3 people....probably friends or co-workers....and tell them beforehand that someone will be contacting them as your reference. "Yeah, Sally is great!" <----that's what you base your hiring decisions on???
As a hiring manager, I would only want references from former supervisors, not just any random person. I once spent about 10 minutes talking to a person I thought was a supervisor. When I found out he was a co-worker, I asked if a supervisor was available. No dice on that. We passed on him. Probably just as well, we ended up hiring a great person who did a wonderful job. Legitimate references are very important.
As a hiring manager, I would only want references from former supervisors, not just any random person. I once spent about 10 minutes talking to a person I thought was a supervisor. When I found out he was a co-worker, I asked if a supervisor was available. No dice on that. We passed on him. Probably just as well, we ended up hiring a great person who did a wonderful job. Legitimate references are very important.
This could possibly weed out potentially great employees. I have worked at companies that were subsequently bought out and no longer exist so I would have no way to get in touch with my former supervisors there. In other cases, those people have moved on to different companies or it was 15-20+ years ago....in one case my former supervisor passed away.
You add references for your other jobs and NOT you're most current. They usually need your permission and most would understand not wanting your current job to be contacted. So you omit them.
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