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Old 09-13-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: USA
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Companies want to keep a revolving door to keep wages low and benefits down. You're basically walking on eggshells every hour of that 40 a week.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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So basically people HAVE to be miserable, because any reports that say people are happier and more satisfied are being manipulated somehow?

That's a convenient position that doesn't allow for argument against it.
Yes, it is like saying that everything is "Fake News", so whatever you hear bad about me isn't true.

Some people here don't know how surveys and studies are done. They don't need cooperation of the employers at all to conduct them.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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At the end of the day you’re just a number to the sociopaths running the show. You aren’t even human. You’re parasites to starve out. Oh sure, the company may (and probably will) crash and burn in the long run when they can’t retain any good employees and the executives will probably just halve the value of the company. . But so long as the nuts running the show makes off with all the loot before it crashes they don’t care. They will just weasel their way into the next high powered position at a diffferent company and do the same thing. Our current executive team bankrupted 2. previous companies. Naturally, the BOD thought they would be a “good fit” and they are doing the same thing now to this one. If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny. The idiocy of humans never ceases to amaze


Even worse there NO accountability for poor decisions that even a grade school child wouldn’t make. When you don’t hold anyone accountable for poor actions and decisions, how can you expect anything to improve?
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Utah!
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Some folks on here have touched on some issues, so I'll add some of the main things I've seen in my time in the working world:
  • There really is a disconnect between (upper) management's expectations compared to how things actually work in the lower levels
  • People with actual talents, abilities, and even passion to do something else with their careers (lateral move or otherwise) where they'd be more effective but are pigeon-holed in their current path because they've been doing it for X amount of years - I'm in this hell right now lol
  • Sometimes management allows staffing gaps to go on far too long because it "looks good on the books" (seriously, this BS happened at my last company). Never mind when the remaining staff can't get things done because they're overloaded, stuff gets missed, quality goes down, etc.
  • Limited vacation time - the standard 10 days per year - really isn't a whole lot. Very few American companies offer more than that unless you're with them for a long time. I suppose that wouldn't be such a big deal if the other work place problems were addressed.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:54 AM
 
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Some folks on here have touched on some issues, so I'll add some of the main things I've seen in my time in the working world:
  • There really is a disconnect between (upper) management's expectations compared to how things actually work in the lower levels
  • People with actual talents, abilities, and even passion to do something else with their careers (lateral move or otherwise) where they'd be more effective but are pigeon-holed in their current path because they've been doing it for X amount of years - I'm in this hell right now lol
  • Sometimes management allows staffing gaps to go on far too long because it "looks good on the books" (seriously, this BS happened at my last company). Never mind when the remaining staff can't get things done because they're overloaded, stuff gets missed, quality goes down, etc.
  • Limited vacation time - the standard 10 days per year - really isn't a whole lot. Very few American companies offer more than that unless you're with them for a long time. I suppose that wouldn't be such a big deal if the other work place problems were addressed.

This is a major problem with most companies now. Years ago if you showed your worth, were reliable, valuable, management would find a better position for you higher up the ladder. Thats gone in most places so eventually people just leave. If you have been in the same position for 3-4 years or more, its probably high time to get out because either A: You aren't appreciated and you're being used or taken advantage of, or the place is being cheap and not offering career advancement.

The only way not to be pigeon-holed now is to just leave. if you stay you're probably gonna end up doing the same damn job for the next 20-30 years (especially if you're valuable).

You can rest assured you will lose your passion if you had any the next few years. And all your talents and abilities will be going to waste
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Old 09-13-2018, 11:06 AM
 
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From my experience , once the conpanies lay off people, they expect remaining employees to take on the work, so people are pushed to their breaking point.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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This is a major problem with most companies now. Years ago if you showed your worth, were reliable, valuable, management would find a better position for you higher up the ladder. Thats gone in most places so eventually people just leave. If you have been in the same position for 3-4 years or more, its probably high time to get out because either A: You aren't appreciated and you're being used or taken advantage of, or the place is being cheap and not offering career advancement.

The only way not to be pigeon-holed now is to just leave. if you stay you're probably gonna end up doing the same damn job for the next 20-30 years (especially if you're valuable).

You can rest assured you will lose your passion if you had any the next few years. And all your talents and abilities will be going to waste
I'm basically stuck where I am because of this.

Let's say you're on the application side of the house in IT, but want to move into some sort of systems position. A lot of places won't allow you to make a lateral move, or even move into an entry-level role in another department.
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Utah!
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I'm basically stuck where I am because of this.

Let's say you're on the application side of the house in IT, but want to move into some sort of systems position. A lot of places won't allow you to make a lateral move, or even move into an entry-level role in another department.
Exact problem I'm running into as I've been trying to switch from manufacturing engineering to design. Companies in general want you to do the same friggin job until the end of time, even if you'd be better suited for something else.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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Because of social media/Internet.

Now you are in a position to hear the complaints of millions of people you don't even know.

Hey, OP, how many people have told you face to face about their work woes? I think you are suffering from a cognitive bias.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:20 PM
 
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I'm basically stuck where I am because of this.

Let's say you're on the application side of the house in IT, but want to move into some sort of systems position. A lot of places won't allow you to make a lateral move, or even move into an entry-level role in another department.
Or MAYBE...it's actually because you have made 27 posts on CD since you arrived in the office at 8:30 this morning?
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