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Naperville is a relatively affluent suburb of Chicago. If I'm stuck here in Tennessee making $12/hr, but can find a job making $25-$30/hr in Naperville, why wouldn't I go? It's not always about the taxes - it can also about be about the availability of jobs and what they pay.
Wisconsin has had a history of being a relatively progressive state. It looks like Walker is going down, so the pendulum will probably be swinging back.
Don't get ahead of yourself, they underpoll Rs. With the economy the way it is why would the state roll the dice and vote him out? It's a blue collar state and he's been decent to them.
Milwaukee has been one of my choices for relocation. Has blue collar jobs with okay wages, rent that isn't insane(with a few exceptions) and transit. Crime rate is high in city limits I hear, tho. And as a black dude, I dunno if moving outside of the city is worth it.
Well there's about to be a rush of 7,000 new people on the border. Maybe they can bring some of those workers to do the service work and that would free up the current people to move up the ladder to the higher paying jobs.
Companies are rolling in the dough but aren't paying. They need to crack open their wallets. Signing bonuses, relocation fully paid, this is what they are going to have to do.
I and most people I graduated with moved away from Wisconsin. I loved living there, but outside of Madison and Milwaukee its slim picking for your educated professionals, and even there, wages are low. I go back yearly as I love it so, but couldn't afford to stay, just not enough decent jobs and the pay was atrocious.
I love the driftless area, the people, the Friday night fish fries, the walleye fishing, the diversity of habitats, but there is a serious lack of culture outside of the two urban areas. The political shift (much of it caused by pushing out young educated professionals) and the attack on education hasn't helped it, and won't help it, attract a modern work force.
That's really the case about every state outside of a handful of major urban areas. There's not much in Tennessee outside of Nashville, Knoxville, and maybe Chattanooga. Looking north of where I am, there's nothing of note in Kentucky or Virginia for many hours.
Some red states like Texas are attracting tons of people. It's really about how vibrant that job market is.
Personally, I'm fine with a city the size of a Madison. I need a Costco, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, that type of thing. I want to be closer to more specialists than what's available in my local area. If it's within a couple of hours of a metro of ~2 million, that's big enough for me to get my pro sports fix and such. Aside from the cold, I'd probably be fine in Madison.
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Don't get ahead of yourself, they underpoll Rs. With the economy the way it is why would the state roll the dice and vote him out? It's a blue collar state and he's been decent to them.
Milwaukee has been one of my choices for relocation. Has blue collar jobs with okay wages, rent that isn't insane(with a few exceptions) and transit. Crime rate is high in city limits I hear, tho. And as a black dude, I dunno if moving outside of the city is worth it.
No, some of the edge communities, especially in the direction of Waukesha, are crazy right wing and definitely not friends to POC. I had the opportunity to work with some of the underprivileged groups in the region (mostly Hispanic at that time) and the racism was often palpable.
A lot of people simply aren't going to be attracted to a cold place like Madison that is fairly small, isolated, and doesn't have a ton to do.
Madison is nearly as good as it gets for Wisconsin. There are a lot of pretty females that attend University of Wisconsin.
However, it is still a college city and those cities are limited economically.
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Some red states like Texas are attracting tons of people. It's really about how vibrant that job market is.
Texas attracted me. I came to Texas in large part for its job market. Without a good job market, there's not as much of a reason to live in Texas. Most of the populated parts of the state do not have great scenery and weather. The good job market helps attract people here, which makes for a better social scene.
The University of Wisconsin (Madison) is a major research university, and owns tons of patents, and spins off tech companies to commercialize its inventions in pharmaceuticals and drug discovery, medical imaging, materials and chemicals, information technology and clean technology. UW is ahead of Harvard and Johns Hopkins, but just behind MIT, Stanford, and the University of California system. UW is issued more patents than the rest of the Big 10 combined.
Madison is NOT some sleepy backwater town with a small liberal arts college.
Madison is very nice, with lots of appeal, and has been growing steadily, to the point where it is a bona-fide mid-level metro area. State university, state capital, loads of restaurants, still fairly affordable, etc. Milwaukee isn't bad at all, either. Minnesota, however, on the whole, through the Twin Cities, offers a bit more ( although it doesn't have the Chicago access that Madison/Milwaukee enjoy)..
Wisconsin outside of those two cities isn't bad, but there really isn't much there to entice out-of-staters. Not overly cosmopolitan, and not offering anything out of the ordinary. I learned when I lived in Madison that small-town WI is really meant just for those born into that kind of environment, and that goes for other Midwestern cities, as well. You'll feel out of place, very quickly.
There are tons of Wisconsiners in the Twin Cities metro. On a friend's block in NE Minneapolis Wisconsiners make up 50 percent of the residents.
Maybe it's just me but I think it would probably better serve Wisconsin to figure out precisely why people, especially millenials, are leaving and stop the bleeding.
Wisconsin has an abundance of job openings, but not enough workers to fill them. Now, elected officials and businesses are hoping to woo residents from nearby states by pitching a low cost of living, short commute times and what they say is a high quality of life.
“It’s great to have more people working in Wisconsin than ever before, but it creates a challenge,” said Tricia Braun, chief operating officer for the Wisconsin Economic Development Corp. “We just essentially need more people.”
The worker shortage comes as the state is about to get even more jobs. Taiwan’s Foxconn Technology Group is investing $10 billion in a 20 million square-foot campus in southeastern Wisconsin that will make liquid-crystal-display screens like the ones used in smartphones, car dashboards and televisions. The facility is expected to employ as many as 13,000 workers. The state department of workforce development estimated there will be about 45,000 job openings without the workforce to fill them by 2024.
Wisconsin's Unemployment rate has been sub-3% all year; Madison's unemployment rate has been sub-2%. The state department of workforce development estimated there will be about 45,000 job openings without the workforce to fill them by 2024.
Soooo... Wisconsin is running ads in nearby states attempting to attract workers to relocate by focusing on a better quality of life, affordability, and cost-of-living.
^^LMAO cost of living? Maybe compared to Illinois but WI is one of the highest taxed states in the midwest, especially with regards to property taxes which means high rents.
They might get some people from Chicago but fat chance getting them from IA, IN, MI etc.
Don't get me wrong, I love WI, I have family there but it's not some random mystery why they don't have enough workers.
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