It never was the jobs themselves that I hated...

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Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Well, the rare individuals I've known who actually did coursework in a management program, were given psychology material, that discussed different personality types, and how best to work with them. How to know what buttons to push, in order to motivate them, and how to structure a functional team out of the different types. But most people who are in a supervisory or lower management position, have never done any coursework like that.

And some people just have a natural gift for building loyalty and morale.

Oh, absolutely some people have a natural gift. I think true leaders are born, not made. Or at least born with the gift and then grow it like a natural talented ball player. Interesting about the lack of coursework because, even though I'm a physicist/engineer, both my undergrad and graduate programs included a couple of management courses as mandatory. What bothered me about those courses is they focused almost entirely on the structure and functions and finances, not on the interpersonal dynamics. Now since getting promoted out of field work into management, I've taken a lot of those phycological based training and seminars. I just found it bothersome that the basic management courses taken by the business majors were all about the mechanics of management and not the human element.

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So true about the management. If they won't discipline employees, then bad behavior is common. I had a job where a guy called a fellow female employee a F***ing C***. I and other employees complained to the supervisor. Nothing was done. Another job I had, the supervisor was a coke head. He yelled at everybody all the time because he was up all night snorting blow. He was never talked to, because he brought in clients and money. Another job, a supervisor was sexually harassing the women on the floor. All they did was transfer him. The list of things I have seen working is endless. It does come down to management and making employees treat each other with respect. If bad boy behavior goes on, and it is tolerated, then you are in a bad job.