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Old 01-13-2019, 10:42 PM
 
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In my experience I’ve known several people that have gotten data scientist roles by being “scientists” that can program. Not sure if that’s experience or not, but the programming was self taught the science part was education.
I've heard that a lot of the early "data science" came out of physics and astronomy because they had to develop tools to handle huge datasets. So they did have a lot of the science mindset first.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:10 AM
 
Location: NYC
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There are zero Data scientist jobs that require no experience. So you'll go and study data science and wind up not getting the job. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.



Can't get this job without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out



Sales job. May need some experience, but the senior roles require experience. However, you can start out in a junior role with no experience, and work your way up to this job.



Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.



You can get this job by working your way up from a customer service Mcjob, which can be obtained without experience.




Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.


Whenever I see lists of "great jobs" - they're always posted by schools/colleges/universities that are selling education and are lying to people, telling them they an get these great jobs by simply taking their courses.
Where does it say in the article that these are entry level jobs?
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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We don't hire any of those job titles, though we do have some jobs that sort of line up with Engagement Manager, and Enterprise Account Exec, and Data Scientist. But our pay levels are not anywhere close to that. We're offering new graduating engineers about $45K and our HR thinks they are being generous. I show them a study like this and they deny it's real.

But then the public thinks we're all over paid, they think we're making $180K a year anyway.
The market is the only thing that's real.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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There are zero Data scientist jobs that require no experience.


Can't get this job without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out


Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.


Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.



It seems to me that, if they never hire anyone without experience, sooner or later there will be no one with experience in these jobs (no one lives forever!), and they will have to begin hiring people with no experience and training them to take over when the last experienced person dies.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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There are zero Data scientist jobs that require no experience. So you'll go and study data science and wind up not getting the job. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.

Can't get this job without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out

Sales job. May need some experience, but the senior roles require experience. However, you can start out in a junior role with no experience, and work your way up to this job.

Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.

You can get this job by working your way up from a customer service Mcjob, which can be obtained without experience.

Can't get thee jobs without experience. Recent grads and career changers are locked out.

Whenever I see lists of "great jobs" - they're always posted by schools/colleges/universities that are selling education and are lying to people, telling them they an get these great jobs by simply taking their courses.
Saying there are NO jobs that require no experience is simply wrong.

Career changing is also the easiest way to get better jobs. It's pretty easy to prove you have related experience to get better jobs.
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