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Old 03-20-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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Is anybody on here familiar with Rutgers and RWJ Medical Center?

I see that Rutgers is “affiliated” with RWJ. I see that most of the positions are Union on Rutgers website. I want to apply for jobs via RWJ also but it doesn’t show if it’s a Union job. Are there any Union jobs via RWJ web or do I have to stick with Rutgers web where most of the positions I am qualified for are Union? Thank you in advance
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Old 03-20-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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If it's a union job at RWJ, it's a union job. It doesn't matter where you apply work. The steelworks union will collect dues from your paycheck regardless of whether you apply from the RU or RWJ website.
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Old 03-21-2019, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Congratulations on seeking a unionized position. By going union, you can be assured that misunderstandings with management won't result in termination, you will have reasonable paid vacation, and you will be paid what the men are because each position will have a salary band.


Here is a website to get you started: Hospitals | CWA 1091 : The New Jersey Nurses Union
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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If their web site does not specify whether the jobs are union or not, call the Med Ctr HR office and ask them.

It is very typical for universities and their hospitals to be separately incorporated. Both are large institutions, but they have different missions, and one set of policies and procedures for all would be detrimental to one group or another. As one example, hospitals are 24/7/365, while universities are not. Universities obtain income from tuition and state support, hospitals from medical fees and related insurance. Universities must be accredited, hospitals undergo a different version entirely.

This means that one institution may be unionized, while the other is not.
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Old 03-21-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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Do you want it to be unionized or not? There are some pretty large drawbacks to putting yourself through a unionized job.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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Congratulations on seeking a unionized position. By going union, you can be assured that misunderstandings with management won't result in termination, you will have reasonable paid vacation, and you will be paid what the men are because each position will have a salary band.


Here is a website to get you started: Hospitals | CWA 1091 : The New Jersey Nurses Union
Thank you, I have a Union job now and I prefer to continue to in one when I move back.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Congratulations on seeking a unionized position. By going union, you can be assured that misunderstandings with management won't result in termination, you will have reasonable paid vacation, and you will be paid what the men are because each position will have a salary band.


Here is a website to get you started: Hospitals | CWA 1091 : The New Jersey Nurses Union
Thank you, I am not a nurse I do the insurance and authorization. I have a Union job now but I like to continue to be in a Union position when I move back
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Do you want it to be unionized or not? There are some pretty large drawbacks to putting yourself through a unionized job.
Like I said; you're on managements side every time. Aside from offending your bosses, could you list them?

Unpaid overtime
fired at whim
If you don't come in Sunday, don't come in Monday.

or

getting to take scheduled vacations with no surprise emergencies forcing cancellations.
almost everyone argues with their boss at times. Union people don't get fired for it.
a pension that is held by a third party and won't be cut when you're ready to collect.
having a pension.
having a vacation to take.
getting paid like the men do because each job has a salary grade and band.
paid overtime until you really are a manager

People like Katalin know when they are better off.

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Old 03-21-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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Like I said; you're on managements side every time. Aside from offending your bosses, could you list them?

Unpaid overtime
fired at whim
If you don't come in Sunday, don't come in Monday.

or

getting to take scheduled vacations with no surprise emergencies forcing cancellations.
almost everyone argues with their boss at times. Union people don't get fired for it.
a pension that is held by a third party and won't be cut when you're ready to collect.
having a pension.
having a vacation to take.
getting paid like the men do because each job has a salary grade and band.


People like Katalin know when they are better off.
Non union, I am not held back by poor performing co-workers. If I prove I am doing more than them, I can be paid more and promoted faster. Non union, I'm not stuck with mediocre workers who only don't get fired because of union rules.

Each job having a set salary band is good for average to mediocre performers, it's a negative for people who can prove they deserve more.

I'm confused why you would think being on the side of motivated employees who take responsibility for their own careers is "on the side of management". I don't need to waste money on union dues for something I can do better on my own.

I know we disagree, and you picking my posts out to respond is getting old when we know we don't see eye to eye. Let's agree to disagree on this. All the best.
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Old 03-21-2019, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Non union, I am not held back by poor performing co-workers. If I prove I am doing more than them, I can be paid more and promoted faster. Non union, I'm not stuck with mediocre workers who only don't get fired because of union rules.

Each job having a set salary band is good for average to mediocre performers, it's a negative for people who can prove they deserve more.

I'm confused why you would think being on the side of motivated employees who take responsibility for their own careers is "on the side of management". I don't need to waste money on union dues for something I can do better on my own.

I know we disagree, and you picking my posts out to respond is getting old when we know we don't see eye to eye. Let's agree to disagree on this. All the best.

Today is a week day and you don't claim to be retired so unless this is your job, get back to work. Your productivity is falling off.
Unpaid overtime is a scam. Sudden emergencies that cause cancelled vacations are a scam.
I will not back off. Corporations have their place, but not as our masters in some oligarchy.
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