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Old 03-24-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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Hi friends,

If there is a better forum for this, please tell me.

A co-worker of mine, fellow contractor, had a sexually explicit conversation on Facebook on a government computer, in his second week of work! This is a TS/SCI position in Information Technology! Never seen anything so irresponsible.

1. Anyway, what are the odds that the powers that be are monitoring or will see it later?

2. What are the odds this would mean a loss of employment?

If possible, I would love some input on this from someone who has dealt with this kind of stuff before, either as they one who screwed up, the one who monitors, or as the one who has to dole out the consequences.

Thanks!
QA
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:44 PM
 
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The USG is definitely watching.

Unless the person is a crony (i.e. kid of a Congresscritter) this cow-irker is toast.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:13 AM
 
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I can't wait to read the responses to this!
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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In the places that I've worked at, my managements have always watched what their employees did like a hawk. Especially now with the advances made in technology, it is very easy to monitor what employees do. At my last IT job, for about a year before I retired, my company started to monitor every keystroke of their employees on their computers. It was always best to assume that everything you did, your bosses would know about it. There were plenty of people that I knew who were fired for using their work computers for inappropriate purposes on and off company time.

So I think that the government is also watching its employees. It is very easy to do that nowadays. Many workers feel that it is not their employer's business to know what they are doing on company computers on company time. But it is their business. I think that your co-worker is in big trouble. Having said that, if a few weeks go by and nothing happens then your colleague is probably safe. That would mean that management either missed seeing the misdeed or ruled that it was not important enough for disciplinary action.
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I worked for a public agency, not the government exactly, and technically they could see everything you did on your computer. But in real practice, they aren't going to pay people to sit and monitor everything every employee does. It's just that when they want to know, they can dig it up and use it against you.

Examples: I was talking to one of the IT guys I know, and he was telling me that one of the engineers called him because his computer kept crashing. "Jim" fixed it, but then the next day the guy calls again and gets really nasty with Jim because his computer still doesn't work right. Jim looked into it a little more closely, and it turns out the problem is that Mr. Engineer is using that computer to do his own engineering work on the side and the documents he is processing on the agency's computer were too large for it to handle and that's what was causing him the crash.

He said to the guy, "Look idiot, if I report what you are doing here, you will lose your job. Just delete your personal side job work and the computer will work, but don't get nasty with me again or it will be the last time, understand?"

In another case, this guy who was a lawyer appears in the newspaper from a few counties away as their new commissioner of something or other. But, his job at the public agency 1) precludes him from taking any political appointment, and b) requires that if he is taking an additional job for compensation, he has to request permission, which he didn't do. So, they suspended him, and as part of their case for firing him the IT guys were called in to see if he was using his work computer to do the other job. Not only did they find out he was, lol, but he was apparently cheating on his wife and had nude pictures of his girlfriend on the work computer.

So, it's there. The history of what your friend did is available by your IT people to be pulled up and exposed. It's just a matter of whether anyone has reason to look.
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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If he doesn't care, you shouldn't either. You need to care about you.

The fastest growing career realm in Fed Gov is cybersecurity. What do you think these folks do.....
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:46 AM
 
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If he doesn't care, you shouldn't either. You need to care about you.

The fastest growing career realm in Fed Gov is cybersecurity. What do you think these folks do.....
But do you think they are looking for a guy accessing porn on Facebook or someone looking for how make a bomb?

My email address was on our agency's website at one time for specific information. One day, I got an email that asked if it was possible to put explosives in light fixtures in one of our transportation facilities and if the people who changed the bulbs had background checks.

Now I am pretty sure this was just some paranoid idiot who used that facility sitting at home overthinking, but you don't write an email like that to an agency that's been hit by terrorism. I forwarded it to our police, and one of them called me to ask for the message headers. He said, "This guy will hear a knock on his door before this day is over."

Meanwhile, I was posting on AOL message boards at lunchtime about parenting issues, which I technically should not have been doing using a company computer, but that never concerned anyone. Everybody used their computers for some personal business, and as long as you were doing it on your own time and not instead of working, it wasn't a problem.

Sites like Facebook, after it came around, were blocked where I worked.
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Why do I suspect that the OP is HOPING his coworker will get nailed?
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Name and Agency? We can band CD together and get rid of the "probably"
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:30 PM
 
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Nothing will happen as he will not be caught. Do not think federal agencies and employees are smarter than they really are.
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