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Old 03-25-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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If there is one thing that has surprised me more than anything it is how utterly devoid of meritocracy most work places are as exemplified in hiring, raises/retention, and layoffs.
I forgot to bring this up in my other post but I want to make sure that I acknowledge this is potentially a real issue.

At my current job, that's absolutely not the case.

However, I've had family\friends etc that have worked at places like that.

ESPECIALLY prevalent at jobs with strong unions, political connections, family owned or otherwise tightly run businesses etc.
(My sibling is stuck in a similar situation at their job...business owned by a couple families, they like to hire friends and family.)

My advice is that unless you're the one with the connections, you need to stay away from those situations as best you can. 100% recognizing that those situations, while not universal, sure do suck.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:16 AM
 
Location: In a vehicle.
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Leaders usually know when reorgs/RIFs are going to happen and will shuffle teams to give the employees that they like a soft landing. This is good to know because it helps you detect warning signs ("I sense a disturbance in the Force," to quote Star Wars).
I'm not surprised. At my job I spoke with a tech who was a material handler some years ago and he "Almost" got laid off, but suddenly a tech trainee position open (Just for him) and so he avoided lay off...He knew it was due to his supervisor going to the President and begging to keep him...


It didn't help me though when working in 1999. I did have 5 workers go to the supervisor and speak for me, but their minds were made up and she didn't dare cross them at the time. But I left then came back in 2000 and stayed there 6 years....
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Old 03-25-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I work for a large IT department that went through a RIF. Who got laid off made no sense. They laid off experts and kept people unfamiliar with some systems.
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Old 03-25-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Considering the workplace is nothing but an extension of high school today, no surprise


“Likeability” is more important than bringing value, hard work and skill to the table
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Old 03-25-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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I work for a large IT department that went through a RIF. Who got laid off made no sense. They laid off experts and kept people unfamiliar with some systems.
My company did the same thing. Kicked all the experienced more “expensive” subject matter experts to the curb a few years ago and are now in danger of going of business and acquired. I mean “whoda thunk it”.

Common sense isn’t exactly a national virtue now
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:51 AM
 
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My company did the same thing. Kicked all the experienced more “expensive” subject matter experts to the curb a few years ago and are now in danger of going of business and acquired. I mean “whoda thunk it”.

Common sense isn’t exactly a national virtue now
Yeah, that's more just cost cutting for immediate gains and no real thought beyond making the numbers work for the next 6 months or so.

Was your management previously employed at GE? LMAO....what a pack of clowns those guys were....which is why they are where they are today.
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